Comment on What’s driving Cycling Mikey, Britain’s most hated cyclist?

leaskovski@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• theplanlessman@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  One of those things is illegal, the other is not. One puts others at risk of injury and death, the other does not.

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• superkret@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  A helmet doesn’t really protect you if you get run over by a car.

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  • Aux@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It protects your head though.

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  • FlembleFabber@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I disagree, it improves your odds for surviving significantly

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    • Blake@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ooh, this is a classic internet flame war, I haven’t seen this one in awhile. I’m basically obligated by internet history to ask you for proof that it improves your odds of surviving, but instead I’m going to ask you how much RAM Emacs uses on your machine. That should help resolve this argument!

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      • Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I have no idea if Emacs is even installed because I use vi. Which is correct.

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  • palordrolap@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There are situations where it turns out to have been detrimental to have been wearing a seatbelt in a car too. Doesn't mean it's not a good idea in general.

    A helmet might not help much if he goes under the wheels of anything that can be measured in tonnes, but it'll help if he gets nudged (or slips) and tries an unexpected game of tarmac headbutt.

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    • Kwaker76@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Agreed. My wife came off her bike while we were riding together and if she hadn’t been wearing a helmet I don’t even want to think about the outcome. As it was she was knocked out cold, and lost her memory for several hours. There was a huge dent in her cycle helmet that would have been in her head instead if she hadn’t been wearing it.

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    • C4d@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes; circumstances matter. The Highway Code gets around all of this by stating (note it’s a should not a must):

      “You should wear a cycle helmet that conforms to current regulations, is the correct size and securely fastened. Evidence suggests that a correctly fitted helmet will reduce your risk of sustaining a head injury in certain circumstances.”

      That’s from Rule 59; link here

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  • dopplermopper@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wearing a helmet might also might make some drivers drive closer to you and with less care. So it might help make some accidents less severe, but it also might make the chance of a serious accident more likely. It’s not as straightforward as many seem to think.

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    • abeltramo@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      lol what? Oh look he wears an helmet let me run over him; he'll be fine.

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      • TurtleTourParty@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30472528/

        “This analysis confirms that drivers did, overall, get closer when the rider wore a helmet.”

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      • Kanzar@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’ve heard lack of helmet makes car drivers give more space as they’re more aware of how squishy the rider is. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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      • dopplermopper@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        No it’s more like, they look vulnerable as they aren’t wearing a helmet I’ll give them some extra room. I was amazed by the extra space I got when cycling with a child seat on the back of my bike.

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• C4d@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The folks being caught on their phones only have themselves to blame; the law is clear.

  As for the prospect of taking revenge on the cyclist, the very thought is heinous - and helmet or not the liability for any injury would rest wholly with the driver.

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  • Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m sure he’ll find that comforting when he’s dead or injured.

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    • C4d@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m not sure what you’re getting at here. Please elaborate.

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      • adrian783@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        “if I can’t run him over personally, I hope someone else does”

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      • Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        helmet or not the liability for any injury would rest wholly with the driver.

        I doubt that he’d find the fact that the liability rests with the driver comforting if he had a brain injury, or even died, because he didn’t wear a helmet.

        There’s a saying in motorcycling - ‘The graveyard is full of people who had the right of way’. It’s a similar idea, in that it doesn’t matter who was right, or who gets the blame, if you’re dead.

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