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• starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  And if I’m consenting, then it isn’t exploitation when a hot vampire gives me the biggest fucking hickey

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    consenting exploitation is still exploitation

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    • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/exploit

      Scroll down to verbs. When you’re talking about someone else, there’s an implication of unfairness. This is why vegans don’t eat animals or use animal products. If the animals could consent, there would be nothing wrong with it.

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The definition from the vegan society doesn’t mention unfairness at all. it prohibits exploitation carte blanche

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• embed_me@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Doesn’t consent imply the absence of exploitative forces?

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    exploitation and consent are unrelated. I exploit water resources every day, and consent is an absurd topic to raise in this context. the definition of veganism requires the abstention from exploitation of animals for food. there is no exemption made for consenting animals

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    • embed_me@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Exploit does mean “use/utilize” but I assumed the common subtext of “use unfairly or in a manner not conducive to overall welfare”

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        the ambiguity does not seem to be helpful in defining veganism, and the definition should probably be updated

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    • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The way that people use the word “exploit” when talking about living things is different from the way we use it when talking about nonliving things. It implies a lack of consent from the one being exploited.

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        consenting exploitation is still exploitation.

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• Aux@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Nothing is vegan then.

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  • Zozano@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I use Arch plant based alternatives BTW.

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    wrong.

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