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CoderKat@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

IMO that’s being too fanatic. I love FOSS, but you don’t have to use FOSS for absolutely everything. Making a FOSS product does not mean you need to use FOSS for everything. And sometimes the closed source options are simply the best. Eg, GitHub and Discord are widely considered the best options in their field.

Also, at least before Twitter became such a shitty alt-right shit hole, many FOSS products did have twitter accounts! That’s just part of promoting your product and providing an alternative place to contact and discuss. Eg, when Reddit went down, I’d usually check their twitter to get updates on it.

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Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Eg, GitHub and Discord are widely considered the best options in their field.

Librewolf moved to Codeberg a few weeks ago, so I guess there are still alternatives.

As said elsewhere, Mozilla uses Matrix.

Following that logic, why do we bother using Lemmy in the first place? We could just go back to Reddit, using revanced apps with personal API keys, and call it a day.

Also, at least before Twitter became such a shitty alt-right shit hole, many FOSS products did have twitter accounts!

They did, but then Twitter went to shit. Reddit was fine, until it went to shit. If the Piped project were to use a subreddit instead of !piped@feddit.rocks , wouldn’t that be a missed opportunity too? FOSS project should support each other, otherwise it questions their existence in the first place. Why would other organisations and companies bother with the FOSS alternatives if FOSS projects themselves don’t?

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- cubedsteaks@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Following that logic, why do we bother using Lemmy in the first place?
  
  I mean, I’m only here cause reddit sucks and I wanted to see if Lemmy has a different atmosphere. So far it does. Too bad its kinda dead around here.
  
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  - Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Enjoy your stay! It’s quieter indeed
    
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    cubedsteaks@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    yeah I was hoping for more interaction. I’m still digging for communities that have my interests too.
    
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deweydecibel@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

GitHub and Discord are widely considered the best options in their field.

Git, sure, but suggesting Discord is the best depends on how you’re judging that criteria. Best for who? Admins or users?

Moreover, if we’re going to start getting into the nitty gritty about what the “best” options are in any field, then FOSS dies in most cases. Volunteers simply cannot compete with a bunch of paid developers, but they will do their best.

Plex, for example, blows Jellyfin out of the water in terms of polish and simplicity. If you’re judging best on how easy it is, and how likely it is the average person’s going to run into issues, Plex beats its FOSS competition by a mile. But that’s not the whole story, is it? That doesn’t take the insertification factor into account, or the fact that forces you to pay for something that your computer is effectively doing on its own.

But the other thing to remember is that what truly kills FOSS is people just simply not supporting it. The more you use these established, centralized, biggest names, the further you entrench them, and the harder it becomes for any serious alternative to justify its existence.

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