How is the best case scenario Joe Biden?
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return2ozma@lemmy.world 4 months ago
But seriously, I’m still pissed. I knew it would be bad but I didn’t think it would be THAT bad. If they don’t replace Biden, we will get another Trump presidency. If you think Biden can win after the world saw the debate performance, you’re delusional.
Y’all know I hate Biden but I still hate Trump even more. I don’t know at this point who to replace him with. You can’t replace him with Harris, she’s polling even worse than Biden. Newsom, maybe, but it would fire up Trump’s base even more because of the whole anti-California propaganda. I just don’t know… I hate it here. Whitmer?
TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 months ago
return2ozma@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’m legit at a loss… I just feel numb tonight. Seriously. Like WTF are Dems going to do now?!
TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Fades@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Babby’s first presidential election, how cute
APassenger@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’d enjoy Katie Porter. Dunno if she’s ready for something like the presidency, but I’m ready for a president like her.
PenisWenisGenius@lemmynsfw.com 4 months ago
I’m going to stockpile weed and hope we get a 2028 election.
IHeartBadCode@kbin.run 4 months ago
One, they aren't going to replace Biden. Two, that outcome they aren't entirely concerned about. There's some who look at that and go "Biden couldn't possibly win now" and the thing is there's an insanely small amount of people who are at this point undecided. We could have the election tomorrow and the vast majority of people know which button they are pushing and there is nothing that's changing that outcome.
It's basically Trump vs Harris at this point, but with Biden still being a stand-in, Harris doesn't have to get up there and show how little she can tango with Trump. That would actually move the needle. If Biden started pushing daisies tomorrow that would actually change the calculus.
But this debate, as far as I know, zero people have changed their mind about who they are voting for. The RNC is going to nom a felon. The DNC is going to nom a zombie. Neither group is making sane decisions at this point in time because none of them give a shit. They aren't replacing Biden just like the Republicans aren't replacing Trump. We are all on this short bus full of Senior Citizens to hell for better or worse. Kicking and screaming all along the way, this is who have for November.
The DNC brass, they don't care, it's a Tuesday to them if they lose. If Trump gets into power and rounds up all the gay people and shoots them in the head, hey I guess we'll get on that in 2028 or something is what the DNC has to feel about that. It's not that pressing a matter for them. And if Biden wins, the Republicans will just obstruct November 6th, the day after the election, just like they obstructed on January 6th. It is water under a bridge if Trump loses.
You know I heard all this nonsense about "we just need to get Trump out of office" back in 2020. And I knew the day of the 2020 election, Trump isn't going anywhere. If Trump loses 2024, Trump isn't going anywhere. What people ought to be concerned about isn't Trump sticking around, it's when Trump dies off. Because we're not getting rid of the crazy, we're just going to get version 2.0 of the crazy.
The people most affected by whatever outcome happens, those are the ones that are going to take the win or loss the hardest. But the political parties, and especially the RNC and DNC, all of this is just drops of rain on the glass. They are not replacing Biden, that is who we have unless he specifically croaks before we can get to the election.
So if you do not like Trump, you push the Biden button or just stay home. That is the strat here from the DNC. But there's so little undecided here, there is no energy to change course. If say the undecided was like 20%, maybe. But everyone knows whose button they are pushing, these debates aren't going to change that.
If Biden doesn't win in November, Biden wasn't going to win in October of last year. There are zero things either candidate can do that could change some number of people's minds at this point to radically change the outcome of this election. Any everyone is quite aware of this, that's the reason the DNC is going to send in a geriatric senile man and the RNC is going to send in a pompous felon.
The election is already over, we just haven't cast the ballots. The debates are just bread and circus.
The whole thing is from the DNC and RNC perspective is like that Futurama poster, "you gotta do what'cha gotta do." The DNC is NOT replacing Biden unless he literally dies before we get to the election. That is the only way who is on the Democratic ticket changes.
NABDad@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Biden could probably win by promising to resign after Inauguration Day. I think the devils we know are making the devil we don’t know lol attractive.