Comment on Is America Really That Bad?

• yenahmik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  See, this just isn’t true. There are a number of states that have the right to abortion enshrined in their constitution. Others are voting to have it added to their constitutions. Just because it was removed nationally, doesn’t mean everyone lost that right.

  Granted, it is absolutely a tragedy what is going on in the more backwards states. But things like this make it sound worse than the situation is nationwide. This is the issue the OP has. If you only see the negatives that are reported in the news, it sounds like the US is an absolute hellhole, which is not most people’s lived experience.

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  • joe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It is true that 50% of the population lost this constitutional right.

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    • yenahmik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There are state CONSTITUTIONS that protect this right, so no it’s not true.

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      • joe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Dude you’re not going to get through this with shitty wordplay. They did in fact lose a US constitutional right. This isn’t a debatable statement, it is a fact.

        What is your end game here?

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• pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The only way we’ll improve is if people realize how shitty it is and vote for better reps and better laws.

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  • joe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I mean, case in point: someone replied to my post apparently not knowing abortion is banned in places in America. I don’t even understand how that’s possible it was everywhere on the news for months.

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• Nemo@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You can’t lose a human right. Their right to bodily autonomy is being infringed upon, but they still have it, no matter what the government says.

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  • joe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I appreciate what you mean but the idea that human rights aren’t granted is just a philosophy, not something that actually matches reality.

    That is to say, whether I agree with your premise or not doesn’t change reality at all.

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• applejacks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Do you think we should switch the abortion laws that most european countries have?

  Do you know they are typically stricter than what we have here?

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  • joe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Stricter than a complete ban?

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    • applejacks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Where is abortion banned in the US?

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      • AlataOrange@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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      • joe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Do you really need me to Google this for you?

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