Comment on Is America Really That Bad?
applejacks@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yes and no.
We do have mass shootings, but we also live in a country in 330 million, but every mass shooting makes national news, so it seems far worse than it is. Also, most mass shootings are gang violence that get lumped in with what we normally consider “random mass shootings” to pump up the numbers and scare people.
Healthcare could definitely be better, but 67% of Americans are satisfied with their insurance. I would still much prefer a universal healthcare system.
Overall, America definitely has its ups and downs, but a lot of the “AMERICA BAD” rhetoric is just a reddit meme where they get rewarded for trashing it.
Trying to downplay the old gun violence again? There is still this though: www.cnn.com/2018/05/21/us/…/index.html
And those numbers only go up to 2018. This year, we have already had as many school shootings by June as during the entire year of 2018: www.edweek.org/leadership/…/01
But yeah, I guess some people consider that ‘scare tactics’. smh
Yes, this is exactly what I was talking about:
www.npr.org/…/the-school-shootings-that-werent
This spring the U.S. Education Department reported that in the 2015-2016 school year, “nearly 240 schools … reported at least 1 incident involving a school-related shooting.” The number is far higher than most other estimates.
But NPR reached out to every one of those schools repeatedly over the course of three months and found that more than two-thirds of these reported incidents never happened. Child Trends, a nonpartisan nonprofit research organization, assisted NPR in analyzing data from the government’s Civil Rights Data Collection.
We were able to confirm just 11 reported incidents, either directly with schools or through media reports.
So what about statistics from the Center of Homeland Defense and Security? Probably also just inflated, right? nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/a01
Do you not realize how much lower those numbers are than what you originally posted?
You are undermining your own claim.
They also include deaths that never happened at schools.
Also from your own link:
The percentage of youth homicides occurring at school remained at less than 3 percent of the total number of youth homicides
From your own data, in 2018, there were 10 homicides of youths in schools.
www.census.gov/topics/…/school-enrollment.html
On average in America, there are 73.8 million students in school.
That’s a percentage of .0000001%
Go outside dude. “America bad” is not based on reddit, there are millions of citizens out there who have real issues with the way our country is run, real activist groups doing protests and trying to spread awareness.
All you have to do is open your mind to be able to see these problems (instead of downplaying issues like mass murder) and listen to the people who feel they’ve been disadvantaged
Yes, how dare I look at the actual statistics over listening to people that “feel” a certain way.
Healthcare could definitely be better, but 67% of Americans are satisfied with their insurance.
No offense, but this sounds a bit like asking the congenitally blind if they miss seeing.
I don’t disagree with that.
joe@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You skipped over the whole 50% of the population lost the constitutional right to control their own body.
You skipped over a lot of stuff.
America is pretty bad, and we’ll never get better if everyone keeps insisting we’re not that bad.
yenahmik@lemmy.world 1 year ago
See, this just isn’t true. There are a number of states that have the right to abortion enshrined in their constitution. Others are voting to have it added to their constitutions. Just because it was removed nationally, doesn’t mean everyone lost that right.
Granted, it is absolutely a tragedy what is going on in the more backwards states. But things like this make it sound worse than the situation is nationwide. This is the issue the OP has. If you only see the negatives that are reported in the news, it sounds like the US is an absolute hellhole, which is not most people’s lived experience.
joe@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It is true that 50% of the population lost this constitutional right.
yenahmik@lemmy.world 1 year ago
There are state CONSTITUTIONS that protect this right, so no it’s not true.
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The only way we’ll improve is if people realize how shitty it is and vote for better reps and better laws.
joe@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I mean, case in point: someone replied to my post apparently not knowing abortion is banned in places in America. I don’t even understand how that’s possible it was everywhere on the news for months.
Nemo@midwest.social 1 year ago
You can’t lose a human right. Their right to bodily autonomy is being infringed upon, but they still have it, no matter what the government says.
joe@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I appreciate what you mean but the idea that human rights aren’t granted is just a philosophy, not something that actually matches reality.
That is to say, whether I agree with your premise or not doesn’t change reality at all.
applejacks@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Do you think we should switch the abortion laws that most european countries have?
Do you know they are typically stricter than what we have here?
joe@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Stricter than a complete ban?
applejacks@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Where is abortion banned in the US?