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As long as we have the physical capability of pointing a camera at a display, people will control what they see. Worst case scenario in these browser wars, you run Chrome on a Google certified device then stream the output of that device to the computer you’re actually using, using various filters and vision recognition removing the advertisement from your video stream.

This is extreme, it’s a little crazy, but I think everyone can agree it’s technically feasible. This means we will always have the edge in the browser wars. If we control the display, we control the flow.

Everything else is just an optimization

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penguin@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
It’s fundamentally impossible to grant read access without copy. And you can always do whatever you want to your copy.

Otherwise, piracy wouldn’t be a thing.

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- jet@hackertalks.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Im skipping a few steps. Down then road when they have WEI or something like it, they will only show videos in a secure environment… i.e. where the entire hardware chain has key attestation it hasn’t been modified. In that dark future, we can still do everything through optics.
  
  I agree with you, if they send you data, no matter how its wrapped, its your data to do with as you wish.
  
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  - elvith@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Even then… I have a small USB stick that has a HDMI port and support HDCP. Which means it will capture any HDMI output unencrypted. It was like… 20 bucks on Ali Express. Since it counts as a valid HDCP sink, WEI can only attest that all components up to the “monitor” support copy protection. But it can’t see or attest, that I can just capture the data unencrypted anyways.
    
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  - penguin@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I was trying to agree with you overall in my first comment. That no matter what they try to do, there will be a way around it. Even if it’s as extreme as using a camera to make the copy.
    
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- scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  At some point in the chain it has to be uncompressed, and even though they have teams at Google try to get that down to the last step, someone is always going to figure out how to step in between and grab that stream
  
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ultratiem@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I ain’t doing all that for a video. Better option would be to ditch YT or get governments and regulators to step in and put a stop to this predator nonsense.

Sorry tech companies, you have no right to control such things. I’ll be damned if a company can tell me what application I can and cannot use. Let alone what browser I can ingest the internet with.

This is no different than the browser wars of 2000.

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