I made that assumption because lungs aren’t really inside, they are pretty close to the surface, so they are easy to expand. If they were inside, they would have to push other organs away.
And regarding increasing the overall volume of the body, I addressed that in another comment. Basically, Godzilla would have to visibly swell by a lot, to have that much bouyancy.
It could be that the swelling is only in the underwater part, but then Godzilla would tip over with any slight movement, because the center of mass would be way above water.
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5C5C5C@programming.dev 1 week agoYou’d be right if the cavity is only compressing other organs inside the body without changing the overall volume, but I don’t know why you seem to insist on making that assumption.
I thought it would be clear from my original description, via the analogy with lungs, that the cavity would not squish the internal organs but rather expand the overall volume of the body.
abfarid@startrek.website 1 week ago
5C5C5C@programming.dev 1 week ago
“Lungs aren’t really inside” is not an argument that I thought I’d be confronted with.
If you find that your lungs are not inside your body then I urge you to seek immediate medical attention.
abfarid@startrek.website 1 week ago
At this point, you’re just trying to ridicule me over my choice of words and not actually trying to interpret them in the context that you yourself set:
they have a sack of muscles somewhere inside their body
Why mention “inside their body” if you didn’t mean “deep” inside? All organs are “inside” the body. Therefore, I interpreted your words meaning truly “internal” organs, that that don’t manifest themselves on visual inspection, like heart or bladder. Lungs, while technically inside, are peripheral and visibly expand - a critical distinction in this context.
So you specify “inside” and then mock my adherence to that framing, instead of addressing the core biomechanical issues being discussed.
snooggums@midwest.social 1 week ago
Ducks and other waterfowl have the majority of their weight above the waterline. So do boats.
abfarid@startrek.website 1 week ago
Yes, but birds are very light in general. Most of their volume is feathers and they have a low bone density to boot. As the result, they have a very hard time diving, and have to either dive at high speed or paddle really hard to stay underwater.
And regarding boats, it depends. Do you mean completely empty passenger boats? Then yes, their density is very low by design, because they are mostly empty on the inside. When fully loaded, a commercial cargo vessel, is 80-90% under water.
5C5C5C@programming.dev 1 week ago
You can’t prove that Godzilla’s bones aren’t hollow ballast tanks that can be emptied and filled as needed.
snooggums@midwest.social 1 week ago
When fully loaded, a commercial cargo vessel, is 80-90% under water.
Hahaha, no.
While I can’t find a comparable article for cargo ships, cruise ships are 10% underwater. A fully loaded cargo ship can’t be more than 30% as they tend to be stacked far higher than the ship’s sides. Ocean waves would easily swamp a ship that was 80-90% underwater.
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
This is further proof that, for every statement made, no matter how whimsical, there exists at least one person online who will tell you that you’re wrong.
-The Earth revolves around the sun.
-Ackchyualllllly, they all revolve around the galactic center…
-Godzilla floats by increasing his volume.
-Ackchyually, his volume doesn’t increase because lungs are on the outside… (Wtf?!)
-Cotton candy is my favorite fair food.
-Ackkkkkkchyualllllllllly, my review of the last three years of your comment history proves your favorite fair food is not, in fact, cotton candy. I have gathered and will prove this with ten points. Point one: your childhood experience with Geoffrey the Giraffe suggests…
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abfarid@startrek.website 1 week ago
Whimsical or not, there was a scientific misconception used the statement, that I used to have as well. My only goal was to help dispel the misconception. Usually, Lemmy is quite welcoming to correction of scientific inconsistencies in sci-fi discussions. Idk what happened in this particular thread, but it went off the rails. All my statement got misconstrued and downvoted, despite me engaging in the discussion in good will and being factually correct. Several people showed up, making incorrect or irrelevant statements and got upvoted.
Like your “lungs are on the outside” comment. Maybe you can explain to me, why am I being antagonized and intentionally misunderstood? Obviously I didn’t mean that lungs are on the outside, context matters. And I explained the context in another comment.