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Shiggles@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Polar bears will in fact just kill you and eat you. Grizzlies, very likely to be territorial. Black bears are the most “cowardly”, but all three will fuck you up to protect their young, hence why the season matters.

I haven’t exactly done the math on relative bear populations to tell you if your odds are better with a random bear or a random man, but it doesn’t matter, you wouldn’t consider any of my statements valid even if I wrote a whole ass thesis.

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Malfeasant@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Black bears are the most “cowardly”, but all three will fuck you up to protect their young

Eh, not really… Black bear cubs are quite capable of climbing trees, the mother will definitely make her displeasure known to you, but it’s mainly for show.

Source: I once unwittingly startled a mama black bear and her cubs, ended up falling flat on my back so I was quite vulnerable, she could have easily torn me apart if she wanted to, but she just charged at me, stopped about 6 feet away grumbling, stomped the ground, and clacked her teeth at me. The cubs were up their trees faster than squirrels.

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LesserAbe@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Think the spirit of my comments may not be making it through - I’m not seriously making a statistical argument, was just responding to the other commenter saying let’s get pedantic.

Ultimately, women feel how they feel, and if they say they’d rather be stuck in the woods with a bear than a man, there’s no sense in arguing with them.

What would success there look like, you convince a woman “no, you’re not concerned about the intentions of strange men in the woods”?

If a woman says “I’d rather be stuck in the woods with a bear” we should receive that as information. That’s telling us that many women have serious concerns about their safety with men. And instead of telling them “no you’re wrong for feeling how you feel” a better response could be “sorry you’ve had bad experiences” or even just saying nothing.

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- Shiggles@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It’s saying that and it’s saying they have no concept of the dangers of wildlife. But everyone takes addressing the latter as ignoring the former, when they’re two separate conversations only combined by the dumb analogy.
  
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  - LesserAbe@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Do you think any woman who says this would intentionally go up to a bear in the woods? There’s not a need for education about the dangers of wildlife. That’s not the conversation being had, so people who try to talk to a woman about that in this particular context (online meme) are missing the point.
    
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