Comment on The men vs. bear saga reaches the inevitable conclusion
LesserAbe@lemmy.world 2 weeks agoIf we want to get really pedantic we have to look at stats specifically for cases where a woman was in the woods, with no other entity besides a man or a bear. With it conveniently being impossible to compile that information, I’d bet the ratio of assaults per encounter would be higher with the men than the bears.
Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Absolutely depends on proximity, and probably how close we are to (bear) mating season. And type of bear, for that matter. If we’re including all men with no restrictions, it’s only fair to include all bears too, right?
LesserAbe@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Lol, did anyone say we were limiting to a certain type of bear? Is there some specific species you think will really turn the tide statistically?
Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Polar bears will in fact just kill you and eat you. Grizzlies, very likely to be territorial. Black bears are the most “cowardly”, but all three will fuck you up to protect their young, hence why the season matters.
I haven’t exactly done the math on relative bear populations to tell you if your odds are better with a random bear or a random man, but it doesn’t matter, you wouldn’t consider any of my statements valid even if I wrote a whole ass thesis.
Malfeasant@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Eh, not really… Black bear cubs are quite capable of climbing trees, the mother will definitely make her displeasure known to you, but it’s mainly for show.
Source: I once unwittingly startled a mama black bear and her cubs, ended up falling flat on my back so I was quite vulnerable, she could have easily torn me apart if she wanted to, but she just charged at me, stopped about 6 feet away grumbling, stomped the ground, and clacked her teeth at me. The cubs were up their trees faster than squirrels.
LesserAbe@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Think the spirit of my comments may not be making it through - I’m not seriously making a statistical argument, was just responding to the other commenter saying let’s get pedantic.
Ultimately, women feel how they feel, and if they say they’d rather be stuck in the woods with a bear than a man, there’s no sense in arguing with them.
What would success there look like, you convince a woman “no, you’re not concerned about the intentions of strange men in the woods”?
If a woman says “I’d rather be stuck in the woods with a bear” we should receive that as information. That’s telling us that many women have serious concerns about their safety with men. And instead of telling them “no you’re wrong for feeling how you feel” a better response could be “sorry you’ve had bad experiences” or even just saying nothing.