Comment on Why isn't jerking off more valorized as an easy dopamine hit that's also literally good for you?

• Archelon@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  See, that’s really interesting to me! The mainstream feminist spaces I’ve interacted with have been very sex-positive, so I’m curious how you’ve experienced this demonization.

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  • SeattleRain@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sex positive for women collectively, not for men as a whole.

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  • SeattleRain@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Okay provide some links to these mainstream feminist circles that celebrate male sexuality and or are sex positive about men having sex. I’m genuinely interested.

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    • Archelon@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Here’s exactly what you want: a feminist forum that’s specifically for discussing men’s issues (including sexuality) in a constructive and healthy manner.

      www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/

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      • CautiousCharacter@awful.systems ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        For anyone on Lemmy interested in these issues there’s also a !mensliberation@lemmy.ca.

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      • SeattleRain@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Lol, they do not celebrate or encourage expressions of make sexuality instead they cite is all as objectifying just like garden variety feminists.

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• underisk@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s not an explanation you just restated the claim they asked you to elaborate on. What have you encountered that led you to this conclusion?

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  • SeattleRain@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes it is, masturbation is a part of male sexuality. If you demonize male sexuality any endorsement of male sexual expression is an explicit endorsement of the harmful male sexuality.

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    • underisk@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’ve been clear about what you think dude, we want to know why you think it.

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      • SeattleRain@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Feminists posit that men are inherently predatory. See “toxic masculinity” debates. Influential feminists like Dworkin have even stated that any sexual intercourse with men is sexual assault.

        Mainstream media, which is deeply influenced by feminism, depicts male sexuality as dangerous “any man can be a rapist” while lying by omission about female predators.

        Being male is an inalienable trait and “toxic masculinity” inherently is borne from males. Things like sexual assault are “women’s issues” even though studies show men are assault at near parity to women.

        The list goes on, really shouldn’t have spent so much time answering because it’s so glaringly obvious so you’re arguing in bad faith.

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• gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Not really.

  Feminism embraces openness in society, including walking your own path.

  If that includes deviating from cis male sexuality, then yes, feminism does indeed allow that to happen, if it happens naturally. In other words: feminism does not force you to take part in the toxic masculinity circlejerk.

  In that way, yes, feminism probably reduces the amount of “male sexuality” which is based toxic masculinity in the world. But it does not force that change, instead, it lets it happen.

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• hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  My ass. Yes, maybe some inviduals do, but feminism itself does not. Feminists only ‘demonize’ male sexuality when it starts turning into treating us as walking fleshlights.

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