But is everyone there a fascist? Or just some/most admins/mods? If everyone (not just mods, but users too) or most were, sure.
I’d be willing to bet that most aren’t or even know about it. Defederating due to what some admins and where the majority of users don’t know sounds like “throwing out the baby with the bathwater.”
Not just the mods but the admins are using the deceptive database manipulation practices. i.e. this is not a fixable problem by merely appealing one layer up from a mod of a community - the only layer above admins is defederation from the Fediverse overall, which is what OP is advocating.
It is a pain yes, but also it only takes 2 clicks to migrate your settings from one instance to another - go to Settings and under “Import/Export Settings” click the big Export button, then in the new click Import. With a similar iconic avatar and name, people likely won’t even notice the difference. Your old comments/posts/points won’t transfer though. Bonus: you can keep both, so while e.g. one instance is upgrading you still have another with which to read/reply/etc.
People on lemmy.ml are going to notice a noticeably reduced functionality over the next several months regardless, as many, Many, MANY users start blocking the instance on a personal/user level even if not an instance-wide block. Imagine every single comment you write receives 10x fewer replies back, or votes, just you shouting into the void, and the only people responding back… are the fascists, and those more neutral to fascism.
So OP is bringing up the problem, which is the first step towards healing. :-)
I’d be willing to bet that most aren’t or even know about it. Defederating due to what some admins and where the majority of users don’t know
So are they Nazis if they don’t know they’re sitting at a table with a Nazi? Of course not. That saying only works when they knowingly accept it. It really is as simple as that.
FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 2 years ago
But is everyone there a fascist? Or just some/most admins/mods? If everyone (not just mods, but users too) or most were, sure. I’d be willing to bet that most aren’t or even know about it. Defederating due to what some admins and where the majority of users don’t know sounds like “throwing out the baby with the bathwater.”
OpenStars@startrek.website 2 years ago
Not just the mods but the admins are using the deceptive database manipulation practices. i.e. this is not a fixable problem by merely appealing one layer up from a mod of a community - the only layer above admins is defederation from the Fediverse overall, which is what OP is advocating.
It is a pain yes, but also it only takes 2 clicks to migrate your settings from one instance to another - go to Settings and under “Import/Export Settings” click the big Export button, then in the new click Import. With a similar iconic avatar and name, people likely won’t even notice the difference. Your old comments/posts/points won’t transfer though. Bonus: you can keep both, so while e.g. one instance is upgrading you still have another with which to read/reply/etc.
People on lemmy.ml are going to notice a noticeably reduced functionality over the next several months regardless, as many, Many, MANY users start blocking the instance on a personal/user level even if not an instance-wide block. Imagine every single comment you write receives 10x fewer replies back, or votes, just you shouting into the void, and the only people responding back… are the fascists, and those more neutral to fascism.
So OP is bringing up the problem, which is the first step towards healing. :-)
showmeyourkizinti@startrek.website 2 years ago
“If there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.” It really is as simple as that.
FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Well, I did say (emphasis added):
So are they Nazis if they don’t know they’re sitting at a table with a Nazi? Of course not. That saying only works when they knowingly accept it. It really is as simple as that.