Comment on Chicken vs Egg

• tegs_terry@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  C’mon man Sikhs are fucking chilled out

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  • InternetPerson@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Compared to other religions, I understand that take, if we neglect stuff like not living up to their own doctrine of, e.g., equal rights between women and men, or the Khalistan movement, which has caused death and abused human rights on several occasions, also by killing civilians.

    Still, as most organized religions, it became emergent as a tool of mass control and subjugation. Moral behaviour is not formed by critical thought and self-reflection, but by devotion to some mysterious higher power. Which is and always has been a core issue of problematic behaviour we can so often observe today with religious people. A side-effect is that it has the danger of hindering progress and societal evolution by having a creationism as one of it’s core teachings, as far as I know.

    A further form of subjugation, hindering freedom of individual human (and harmless) expression, can be found among the Kakkars. For example the “dress-code” with having uncut hair, cotton undergarments etc…

    I could go on. So to make it short, no, religions are usually detrimental for the long term constructive development of humanity and Sikhism is no exception.

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    • tegs_terry@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      A lot of what you say can be applied to other, non-religious cultures, not least that of the west, albeit in different measure. Any society will develop an overarching system of rules and standards; it’s necessary to avoid anarchy, which is more inimical to the broader progress of mankind. People naturally band together, it’s an evolutionary trait, so regardless of what intangible strictures those tribes are subject to, there will always be friction between and indeed amongst them. Voltaire said “If God did not exist it would be necessary to create him.” and he was dead right, he just didn’t mean ‘God’ in the strictly theistic sense.

      Ultimately, people are people, meaning they need reeling in or things go to shit. Perhaps there exists an ideal set of circumstances under which civilised man can live peacefully without noticeably impinging on his moral objectivity, but let’s not hold our breath. As long as there are groups, there will be some cunts who tighten the shackles for everyone, whether it be by breaking the rules, or making the rules.

      So yes, all religions are bad, but in the spirit of catching all, I’d go broader.

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Not necessarily… en.wikipedia.org/…/Assassination_of_Indira_Gandhi

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    • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Whats a little light assassination between friends?!

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    • jaagruk@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      And why she was assassinated? It was her fault.

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      • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        This has vibes of “and why was she raped? it was her fault.”

        To be fair though I haven’t even clicked the link and I know nothing about this. For all I know, maybe this person was literally Hitler and assassination was the only way to stop them. But even then, we can conclusively say that this was not chill.

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      • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        I’m not sure why you think that’s relevant.

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• Chobeo@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Jesus is the Ted McGinley of family gatherings.

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