Do you know how to break the cycle? Use open-source software. Use standard protocols that aren’t locked behind some greedy corporation.
Why not take the features from Discord/Slack and integrate it into a new IRC or Jabber protocol?
Comment on Slack users horrified to discover messages used for AI training
Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
- "Alright guys, it’s time to leave Slack for a better alternative!"
- Proceeds to migrate to yet another proprietary and centralized piece of software.
- It happens again.
- "Alright guys, it’s time to leave [insert software name here] for a better alternative!"
- It happens again, again.
- Clown moment.
It’s what’s going to happen. It’s what always happens. And on a side note, by the way, I guaran-fucking-tee you that it’s what’s going to eventually happen with Discord as well. I have zero doubt about it.
SineSwiper@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Has anybody tried Revolt? It looks really cool. Like a proper open source alternative to Discord. But I never had the opportunity to try it with anyone, so I don’t know.
jlow@beehaw.org 5 months ago
Interesting, the name sounds familiar, it’s not based on Matrix and they’re planning encrypted messages. Oh, you can self-host it!
Thann@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Mumble hasn’t fed any of my data to a megacorp!
eveninghere@beehaw.org 5 months ago
Technically, being open source or free ala GPL isn’t enough. Protocols aren’t enough.
You need a guarantee that you own your data.
tal@lemmy.today 5 months ago
I mean, if the Threadiverse has enough volume to be useful, someone – probably many people – are going to be logging and training things off it too, probably.
applepie@kbin.social 5 months ago
That's the nature of public shit posting.
The real issue is that tech creeps and other pests think they own my shit posting.
Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org 5 months ago
At this point, I think the genie is out of the bottle. I feel like unless you’re on some p2p encrypted chat, anything typed into the internet is getting scraped. I’m sure everyone at this point has had at least one comment scraped and used for language model stuff.
B0rax@feddit.de 5 months ago
To be honest, if someone thought that public things on the internet are not getting scraped, I am not sure what to tell them… Search engines have been doing it since the beginning of search engines, it is no wonder that the same would be done to train AI.
Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
It’s not no matter what. It’s under the system we have they are not only not punished for doing so, they are heavily incentivized to do so. There are ways to punish bad actors that de-incentivize other potential bad actors, our politicians actively choose to prioritize these bad actors ability to do harm over the well being of the population.
bilb@lem.monster 5 months ago
I honestly don’t get the outage over that. I feel like I’m in the minority on that, though. I don’t care if linguistic statics are gathered from my public comments. Knock yourself out.
eveninghere@beehaw.org 5 months ago
Corporations are bad and yet still follow laws (in the west). The bigger issue is state actors. Especially the non-democratic ones.
sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 5 months ago
I’m surprised that Slack beat Discord to it.