Comment on Lots of times the restaurants won't even have milk

• Wogi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Yeah no added sugar. The juice generally contains enough sugar on it’s own. Fruit juice is about as nutritious as a soda. You’re taking the sweet part of the fruit and leaving behind the fiber and other nutrients.

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  • eager_eagle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Fruit juice is about as nutritious as a soda

    Not even close. Different kinds of sugar, preservatives, and vitamins all have vastly different ratios.

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    • Wogi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Different kinds of sugar are all sugar when they get to your gut. Anything beyond “the body treats this like sugar” is just a pissing contest.

      When you juice something, you’re leaving 95% of the nutrients in the fruit, extracting the sugar water, and telling yourself you’re drinking healthy. That’s just not the case. The meat of the fruit is where that stuff is at. The fact that some of it makes it in to the juice is incidental. It would be better to drink a glass of water and eat the orange, than to juice the orange. Unless you then throw the juice away and just eat what’s left of the orange. That’s probably the best thing.

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      • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Different kinds of sugar are all sugar when they get to your gut.

        Nope fruits are high in fructose while sucrose, aka table sugar, is 50:50 glucose and fructose. Fruit has the same or even worse makeup sugar-wise as HFCS, glucose can be used pretty much directly by the body while fructose needs to be processed by the liver, into fat. Evolutionary speaking that makes a lot of sense as when there’s a lot of fruit around it’s summer and you need to fatten up.

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      • HappyRedditRefugee@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Where I come from we just take the meat of the fruit and blend it with milk or water (and yes, we call that juice), I you have never try it, go get a ripe mango, blend it with milk and you’ll have a delicious smootie, you can use water but imh milk is superior for that use case.

        Of cours that is no possible with oranges for example, but there a aloooooot mor fruits than oranges.

        If you ever have the oportunity to have some guayaba-milk-juice, don’t pass it up, the shit is the nectar of the gods.

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    • cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Sugar is sugar, HFCS found in sodas and juice with added sugars is more concentrated, but your body still sees it and treats it as sugar.

      Which it also just happens to see as something to hoard because for our entire evolutionary timeline sugar was a rare resource to be had. It wasn’t until the industrial revolution that we began being able to have sugar whenever and however we wanted. Which on the timeline of evolution is nothing but a blimp, a speck of sand.

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• KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Even 100% freshly juiced fruit with no additives is a sugar bomb.

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  • eager_eagle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    different kinds of sugar

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    • KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Fructose isn’t good for you, either.

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    • Wogi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Sugar is sugar.

      It really doesn’t matter if it’s naturally occurring or added after the fact. It’s sugar.

      Debating what kinds of sugar are better for you is kind of like debating which landmine is better to step on.

      Don’t get me wrong, the occasional sugary beverage is fine. But juice is never going to be good for you. Even arguably.

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    • mark3748@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You’re trading HFCS for plain old sugar. Most fruits are approximately 50/50 fructose and glucose, while HFCS is between 42% and 55% fructose, with the balance being glucose.

      Chemically and biologically, they are basically the same.

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