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Godric@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

• Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  You’re confusing liberalism with social progressivism, and leftism with social programs.

  At the end of the day, Capitalism is right wing, Socialism is left.

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  • Godric@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

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• a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  to be fair, the word “liberal” has lost its meaning in the US, because there no differentiation between economic liberalism and social liberalism. the guy in the meme would be a classic socialist in europe. we do have liberals here too, but they are the economic liberalism-type and more in line with the US-Republicans in economic questions, like tax cuts for the rich and businesses.

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  • retrospectology@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    It’s as meaningless as any words that hang on the notion that there’s a “spectrum”.

    You either you accept what works and fosters human well being and liberty, adjusting your politics accordingly to reality as we learn more about the world, or you’re conservative, a fundementally irrational denial of reality.

    This is why seemingly different groups like Marxists and end up at the same place ultimately; they’re unwilling to give up on failed ideas. It doesn’t matter what label one applies, if you’re still trying failed ideas after they’ve produced untold amounts of harm then you’re just on one road to fascism or another.

    It’s a binary, not a spectrum.

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    • a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Lol thats great, i came under a “biden bad”-post just a few hours ago to the same conclusion. the best friend of a left-authoritarian isn’t anyone on the left wing, its an right-authoritarian.

      i’m a socialist with anarchism as an ideal in some aspects, and for quite a while i couldn’t understand why anyone on the left side of the spectrum would actively lobby against biden in the upcoming election until i realized that.

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      • retrospectology@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Biden literally supports genocide, so it is reasonable for people to not want to support him even if it comes at a cost to themselves. If you’re unable to understand that, even if you disagree, I very much doubt you are aligned with the kind of goals you purport.

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  • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    There’s a huge differentiation between social and economic liberalism! Liberals in the US means almost exclusively social liberalism. Liberal in the us is progressivism.

    Economic liberalism is a Republican position, not a Democrat one.

    @Cowbee@lemmy.ml I promise this is the last one, I’ve made my point

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    • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      You’ve made it clear that you believe words do not have meanings, and are just vibes, yes.

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      • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        300 million people having the same vibe

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• AVincentInSpace@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  yes but you don’t participate in riots and vote for joe biden instead of third party, therefore you are no better than transphobes

  /s if it wasn’t obvious

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• grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Just throw workers owning the means of production on there and we’ve got a stew real progressive.

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• retrospectology@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Not what your voting record demonstrates if you’ve been voting for liberal establishment figures.

  Remember a politician’s talk < actions and campaign finance.

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