Comment on What is the point of Xbox?

• acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  because in the bill of materials you’re paying for a screen and battery that are unnecessary expenses if you just need a console. in an actual console, that money will go towards higher powered hardware to run games, and maybe some other ancillary things. Also in a console you can have a better cooling system since you’re not constrained to a mobile platform. all of this adds up to a better performance-to-price ratio in a console compared to handhelds.

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  • tan00k@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Reading through the above comments it seems like goalposts keep moving on what counts as a console. Does the wii u not count as a console because the controller had a screen and the price to performance is poor?

    I’m not sure any of you have a concrete definition for a console, and maybe there isn’t one. It might be more of a spectrum with open and configurable devices on one end and the more focused devices with walled garden software on the other.

    Then you can day that ps5 is more like a console than steam deck is, and steam deck is more like a console than a pc.

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    • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Does the wii u not count as a console because the controller had a screen and the price to performance is poor?

      The WiiU Gamepad did not function on its own, it had to be connected to the actual console in order to function. It was literally a controller with a screen. It did not have any functionality without the console.

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      • tan00k@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The person I was responding to was citing costs accrued for screen and battery as a reasoning for why steam deck is not a console, so I was giving an example (wii u) that contradicts that reasoning.

        I don’t actually care if you consider the steam deck or wii u or anything is a console or not. My point was that I don’t see a concrete definition anywhere in this thread and that maybe a more nuanced view would be appropriate.

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    • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      i would say the wiiu is a special case console. they tried holding in a screen to a typical console design and it didn’t really work. the vast, vast majority of consoles don’t have screens built into their controllers.

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  • callouscomic@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Most of Nintendo’s pre-Switch “consoles” arguably had poor performance-to-price ratios in terms of hardware.

    Also, a PC doesn’t have the constraints of a mobile form factor and better cooling and can have better performance without the built in battery and screen. You just argued to me that a PC can be a console.

    This all seems arbitrary to argue the differences.

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    • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      if those nintendos had to build in a screen or battery they’d have even worse performance for the price.

      i honestly don’t even know what your point about PC is.

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• applepie@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  1. it aint ready for mainstream, it still has issues and translation layer aint perfect at all. my gaming rig is on linux. I guess this will be resolved at some point and valve will release a TV console version.
  2. The hardware is not in the same class, in fact it literally under powered because it is a handheld. Guy who wants headshot noobs 4 loolz wants that 4k60 fps experience.

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