Comment on What is the point of Xbox?

• applepie@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I think that's the point bro above is making tho... sure you an use it like one. But it does not compete directly with PS5 and Xbox. Different audience and primary use case is different.

  If Xbox dies, steam deck is not a proper substitute for people who buy TV consoles. I guess steam could make steam console tho tbh

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  • mortalic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Why do you say it isn’t a proper substitute? What features is it missing?

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    • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      because in the bill of materials you’re paying for a screen and battery that are unnecessary expenses if you just need a console. in an actual console, that money will go towards higher powered hardware to run games, and maybe some other ancillary things. Also in a console you can have a better cooling system since you’re not constrained to a mobile platform. all of this adds up to a better performance-to-price ratio in a console compared to handhelds.

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      • tan00k@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Reading through the above comments it seems like goalposts keep moving on what counts as a console. Does the wii u not count as a console because the controller had a screen and the price to performance is poor?

        I’m not sure any of you have a concrete definition for a console, and maybe there isn’t one. It might be more of a spectrum with open and configurable devices on one end and the more focused devices with walled garden software on the other.

        Then you can day that ps5 is more like a console than steam deck is, and steam deck is more like a console than a pc.

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      • callouscomic@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Most of Nintendo’s pre-Switch “consoles” arguably had poor performance-to-price ratios in terms of hardware.

        Also, a PC doesn’t have the constraints of a mobile form factor and better cooling and can have better performance without the built in battery and screen. You just argued to me that a PC can be a console.

        This all seems arbitrary to argue the differences.

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    • applepie@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      1. it aint ready for mainstream, it still has issues and translation layer aint perfect at all. my gaming rig is on linux. I guess this will be resolved at some point and valve will release a TV console version.
      2. The hardware is not in the same class, in fact it literally under powered because it is a handheld. Guy who wants headshot noobs 4 loolz wants that 4k60 fps experience.

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• RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  While you can do that with a Steam Deck or Nintendo Switch, that was not their primary design. Its no different than plugging in a laptop to a TV with a wireless controller and gaming on that. That is not a console, it was not designed as such.

  Additionally, the quality of gaming experience you get from a Switch is worse than on Steam Deck for intensive games, even for native Switch games sometimes. But the quality of games on the Steam Deck is worse than a purpose built game console like the Xbox Series X or PS5. Keep in mind the Steam Deck is 2 years newer than the Xbox Series X or PS5. While the experience may be comparable on some less intensive games, the console experience is objectively better.

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