Comment on 2x2 lumber at Home Depot is now 1.28x1.28. Nominal size is supposed to be 1.5

• SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Furring strips are used in plenty of places, I provide one example where it is used in most residential homes to support drywall.

  Is it not structural if it’s holding ceiling drywall…? So why are people still bickering that walls aren’t structural when they still hold drywall up…?

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  • OutsizedWalrus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    No, that’s is not structural.

    Structural means it’s intended to support and transfer loads in a way that cannot be safely removed.

    Since neither the furring strips or drywall are part of a structural requirement, they are not load bearing.

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    • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Drywall is structural, when used on block walls it helps provide lateral support.

      This is why being pedantic usually backfires.

      Drywall is inherently structural.

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      • OutsizedWalrus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Drywall is not structural on block walls. The blocks are structural themselves.

        The drywall may help minimize shifting/settling but the dreary is not a structurally required component of the block wall.

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      • bitwaba@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        This is why being pedantic usually backfires

        No shit. You’re giving us a master class on it right now.

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      • bluewing@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I’m not an architect, but I have stayed at a Holiday Inn.

        The easiest way to think about an element being “structural” or not is is to consider what can happen if you remove that element - will the roof/wall collapse on top of you or not. If the answer is no, the roof/wall will not fall down, it’s not “Structural” or “Load Bearing” If the roof/wall can fall down on if you remove it, it is “structural” or “load bearing”.

        So, using your example, if you were to remove the drywall and furring strips from that cement block wall, will the wall and ceiling be in danger of collapse? If it is, then it was structural. If not, then it wasn’t structural.

        The Architects and Civil Engineers that I have known, do not consider drywall or furring strips to “structural” when designing a building. I’m going with their consensus on this matter.

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  • DrBob@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Furring strips and drywall don’t count as load bearing. Structural means that it carries the weight of the overlying structure. Basically if the building falls down if that element is missing, it’s structural. So staircases for instance are almost never structural. Many interior walls are not load bearing so they can get knocked down without consequence. You can also split a room by building a wall that won’t be load bearing.

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    • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Furring strips and drywall don’t count as load bearing.

      Except for the thousands of use cases where they are used for lateral bracing to support the structure….

      Like in shear walls… strapped drywall ceilings… load bearing walls….

      Yes they can be used non-structurally, I’ve never claimed otherwise, yet you are ignoring the fact that they can, and are used in load bearing structural applications……

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