As a thread reader here (not really contributor for this part) I see your point and I appreciate it, but I don’t know if it actually helps your case?

Basically you have established a moral high-ground and visceral reaction from the perspective of the non meat eating type and I can empathize with it, but doesn’t every group have this? Like if you said “Oh but it’s not just about birth control it’s about intentionally thwarting human life” as an argument for Catholics being against birth control… I can understand it but it isn’t an argument yeah? It’s an argument if I agree with your perspective, but otherwise I don’t think you’ve done anything different than the guy you replied to from a purely argumentative standpoint: you both gave a perspective and neither of you met in the middle.

From a debate perspective he’s got you by the short hairs because, even though he may not be absolutely right, you’ve made yourself look a little dickish to the rest of us.