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Surprise surprise non-vegans don’t particularly like being told that are on the same moral footing as children beaters. If it puts you right with your god I give you permission to compare me to one again. I won’t be convinced but hey you got my permission to do it. Unlike one of us in this conversation, I can tolerate people who don’t agree with me.

The purpose of the analogy was to establish the difference between disagreements and preference and disagreements about morality, not to put you on “the same moral footing as children beaters” which is an intentional, bad faith mischaracterization. If you’ll look at what I actually said:

Vegans don’t view it as the type of question that’s like, “Do you like Kirk or do you like Picard?” but rather as the type of question that’s like, “Is it ok to beat your children?"

Reading comprehension not your strong suit, I take it.

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afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Reading comprehension not your strong suit, I take it.

Veganism right here folks. Can’t defend their argument without personal attacks. At least Christianity made some pretty looking buildings. What did your religion give to the world besides shit posts?

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- Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Bad faith, however, is definitely your strong suit. Going from intentional mischaractarization into whining because I called out on it is quite a skillful combo to sidetrack away from any serious discussion.
  
  I do think that harping on this stance of “Anytime anyone says anything is bad, it’s basically the same as being a religious nut job” is pretty ridiculous, so I’d advise finding a different angle next time, except that that’s the only thing you’ve got that even resembles an argument, so idk.
  
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dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
As a thread reader here (not really contributor for this part) I see your point and I appreciate it, but I don’t know if it actually helps your case?

Basically you have established a moral high-ground and visceral reaction from the perspective of the non meat eating type and I can empathize with it, but doesn’t every group have this? Like if you said “Oh but it’s not just about birth control it’s about intentionally thwarting human life” as an argument for Catholics being against birth control… I can understand it but it isn’t an argument yeah? It’s an argument if I agree with your perspective, but otherwise I don’t think you’ve done anything different than the guy you replied to from a purely argumentative standpoint: you both gave a perspective and neither of you met in the middle.

From a debate perspective he’s got you by the short hairs because, even though he may not be absolutely right, you’ve made yourself look a little dickish to the rest of us.

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- Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I don’t see where I established a moral high ground or provoked a visceral reaction. All I did was establish that vegans see it as a moral question and not just a matter of preference.
  
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