Veganism is not a dietary choice it’s a lifestyle choice. Diet is just a big part of it but not the whole of it.
Comment on [Serious] Why do so many people seem to hate veganism?
jacktherippah@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I don’t hate veganism. It’s a dietary choice and that’s fine. What I hate is vegans. They’re always pushy and judgmental and hateful and sometimes even destructive in their activism. They’re an annoying group of people and I just don’t want to have to deal with them.
Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Then what would we call someone who makes the dietary choice but none of the other lifestyle choices? How would they identify in a restaurant setting? The answer is “vegan”. In the same way that I’m vegetarian but don’t care if I wear leather shoes.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m saying that English lacks the words that would let you be precise. We need a word for people who are vegan in diet, and don’t care to bother the rest of the world about it. That’s why OPs question keeps coming up.
Inui@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
[deleted]surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Do people say that in restaurants? I’ve actually never heard it.
Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
The answer is “plant-based diet”
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Do people say that in restaurants? I’ve actually never heard it.
ReiRose@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I think plant-based is the diet choice and veganism is the lifestyle. I got corrected by someone who was plant based. They didn’t want to associate with vegans
tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
It’s an issue of the loud ones standing out the most. I can easily say the same thing about many carnivores I know, who moan and complain if there’s as much as a piece of corn in their meal.
r0ertel@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I came here to say the thing that you said in better words. I’m on a diet for health reasons that closely resembles the vegan diet, so to keep it simple, I’ll say to people that I’m vegan. Most wait staff don’t care if I ask if a menu item can be made vegan, but family or people I’m dining with will either send hate vibes or go into a long thing about some distant vegan relative who died from malnutrition.
Today@lemmy.world 7 months ago
My son used to tell this joke - little less relevant now that the giant hand sized vapes are less common.
If you vape, you’re vegan, and you’re a musician; which one do you talk about first?
Fal@yiffit.net 7 months ago
Fucking goats?
Today@lemmy.world 7 months ago
That wasn’t one of the three, but I’d imagine there may be some crowds where you bring that up early and some where you hold off.
Floey@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Yes, some people being pushy and judgemental is the real travesty. Not animals having their autonomy and lives taken. I didn’t realize we were supposed to coddle people who we see partaking in grave abuses.
GBU_28@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Unfortunately this is a topic like abortion.
Vegans and pro life folks see what “others” are doing as murder/evil. So naturally, since they view the behavior as absolutely inappropriate, their discussion of the topic is always very energetic.
I am not advocating for any dietary path, or abortion position in this comment. I’m only describing people’s behavior. Do not misrepresent me.