Comment on [Serious] Why do so many people seem to hate veganism?

jacktherippah@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Unfortunately this is a topic like abortion.

  Vegans and pro life folks see what “others” are doing as murder/evil. So naturally, since they view the behavior as absolutely inappropriate, their discussion of the topic is always very energetic.

  I am not advocating for any dietary path, or abortion position in this comment. I’m only describing people’s behavior. Do not misrepresent me.

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• Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Veganism is not a dietary choice it’s a lifestyle choice. Diet is just a big part of it but not the whole of it.

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  • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Then what would we call someone who makes the dietary choice but none of the other lifestyle choices? How would they identify in a restaurant setting? The answer is “vegan”. In the same way that I’m vegetarian but don’t care if I wear leather shoes.

    I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m saying that English lacks the words that would let you be precise. We need a word for people who are vegan in diet, and don’t care to bother the rest of the world about it. That’s why OPs question keeps coming up.

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    • Inui@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Plant-based is the label for people who follow a vegan diet but not a vegan lifestyle like avoiding leather.

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      • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Do people say that in restaurants? I’ve actually never heard it.

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    • Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The answer is “plant-based diet”

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      • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Do people say that in restaurants? I’ve actually never heard it.

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  • ReiRose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I think plant-based is the diet choice and veganism is the lifestyle. I got corrected by someone who was plant based. They didn’t want to associate with vegans

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• tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It’s an issue of the loud ones standing out the most. I can easily say the same thing about many carnivores I know, who moan and complain if there’s as much as a piece of corn in their meal.

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• r0ertel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I came here to say the thing that you said in better words. I’m on a diet for health reasons that closely resembles the vegan diet, so to keep it simple, I’ll say to people that I’m vegan. Most wait staff don’t care if I ask if a menu item can be made vegan, but family or people I’m dining with will either send hate vibes or go into a long thing about some distant vegan relative who died from malnutrition.

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• Today@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  My son used to tell this joke - little less relevant now that the giant hand sized vapes are less common.

  If you vape, you’re vegan, and you’re a musician; which one do you talk about first?

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  • Fal@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Fucking goats?

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    • Today@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That wasn’t one of the three, but I’d imagine there may be some crowds where you bring that up early and some where you hold off.

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• Floey@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Yes, some people being pushy and judgemental is the real travesty. Not animals having their autonomy and lives taken. I didn’t realize we were supposed to coddle people who we see partaking in grave abuses.

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