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• lapislazuli@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  FTFY: Longbow was the main battle weapon of the English. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yumi was the main battle weapon of the samurai.

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  • reliv3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Reading your links, the correction you made seems semantically insignificant. Yumi is the word for “bow” in Japanese and longbows describe a bow that are long. Longbows are not unique to the English, and there are a lot of bows that can be described as longbows. So my point is, if samurais used yumis that are long (which some did) then saying they used longbows is not incorrect. Nevertheless, thank you for letting us know what the Japanese called their bows, it was educational.

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    • Paddzr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      As someone who did archery at national level… Your comment is triggering my need to point out how difficult and different “longbows” are.

      I couldn’t handle it after years of playing. The term longbow in archery is as calling everything AR15.

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      • Aux@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Well, a lot of rifles are called AK47 even though most of them are not.

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      • reliv3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        That’s pretty cool that you did archery at a national level.

        Respectfully, I still think that I am correctly interpretting the information on the Wikipedia links sourced above. I’m basing my conclusion off two pieces of evidence. The longbow wiki page linked above mentions that longbows existed in “many cultures”, and there is a separate Wikipedia page for the English Longbow. This pushes me to conclude that there is a symantical difference between the two terms, “longbow” and “English Longbow” though many people assume the latter when the former is mentioned.

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    • lapislazuli@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yes, there have been bows that are long, but not like the longbow. The longbow had a very heavy draw weight, around 90-120 lbs. That’s the weight you have to pull to get it at full draw. The yumi possibly had a a lower draw weight (although Korean and Mongolian composite bows had draw weights of around 100 lbs as well). It had a shorter lower limb which meant it could be used on horseback, while there is no way a longbow could be used on horseback (look it up on Youtube). So the longbow and the yumi are two technically different bows.

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      • reliv3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Very interesting indeed. Thanks for sharing. I’m just pointing out that people are assuming “English Longbow” when saying “longbow”. Which, to be fair to these folks, the English Longbow is likely the most famous longbow in history. Nevertheless, even the Wikipedia page sourced above mentions that longbows existed in “many cultures” and there is a separate Wikipedia page for the English Longbow. This pushes me to conclude that there is a symantical difference between the two terms, “longbow” and “English Longbow” though many people assume the latter when the former is mentioned.

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  • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yumi (弓) is the Japanese term for a bow.

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    • lud@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      used in English, yumi refers more specifically to traditional Japanese asymmetrical bows, and includes the longer daikyū (大弓) and the shorter hankyū (半弓) used in the practice of kyūdō and kyūjutsu, or Japanese archery.

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      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Used in English it’s some weebshit, don’t try to deny it

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