Comment on Imagine denying other living and breathing lifeforms agency to thrive amd change lol lol lol

• Natanael@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s called environmental protection groups, animal rights groups, etc. Plenty don’t want to listen, though

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  • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean literally representatives like senators not interest groups.

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    • azertyfun@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Who is going to keep them accountable? Trees have a record high abstention rate, and if these representatives are elected by humans that’s just proportional voting with veneer on top.

      Democracy is about balancing levers, and that’s why there is more than one branch of government. Special interest groups do have power, and so does the judiciary (who may sue the government for unlawful cutting down of trees) and the executive (who may have power to declare certain government-owned land to be Protected).

      The real ecologist move would be to write a duty to protect the environment into the constitution, so that the judiciary can strike down any law that does anything to the contrary.

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      • lolcatnip@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I believe at least one state—Wyoming, maybe—has a guarantee in its constitution that citizens will have a clean and healthy environment, or something along those lines. It effectively creates a duty to protect the environment.

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• Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I would argue most things in government should be ran in the black or red. There’s just a certain type of person who wants to turn everything Into a for profit.

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• flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You may like Bruno Latour and his rather philosophical book Politics of Nature. I read it in a philosophy seminar and it seemed fascinating how the author tries to completely overthrow the view we have on “nature” and give it agency.

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  • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes thank you. This is more helpful than you realise.

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• JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Can I just get Danny DeVito?

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