The unholy trinity of “environmentalists”, lobbying and the fossil fuel industry.
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ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Every time I’m in a thread about nuclear power it’s the same shit.
Y’all really have no fuckin clue how much safer it is than fossil fuels. But go ahead and keep letting the oil industry convince you otherwise.
fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Y’all really have no fuckin clue how much safer it is than fossil fuels
It’s safer but much more expensive to install and administer.
Forester@yiffit.net 2 weeks ago
I think you replied to the wrong person.
ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No it was meant as a general summary of the comment sections on posts like these.
They’re always filled with people acting like nuclear power is the most dangerous way of generating energy there is despite all scientific data showing pretty much the opposite. Fossil fuels are more dangerous than every other type of energy combined.
wafflez@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nuclear’s solution for permanent waste is to bury it and hope the future can get rid of it. I’m tired of pushing current problems onto future generations. Yes nuclear is safer than fossil fuels, but it’s not perfect.
ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No it’s not perfect but halting any progress because of potential problems is stupid when the current method is doing so much more harm.
janet_catcus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
whats your problem? who said we want to keep using fossil fuels forever? to me, the thing about nuclear power is its waste products and the timescales on which that degrades into something less but still as dangerous as before slow clap
did you know? getting insurance for a nuclear power plant is possible! but you might as well build a new nuclear power plant every year to spend that money more wisely… source some german paper: spiegel.de/…/kernkraft-ist-nachhaltig-nachhaltig-…
we need to get off fossil fuels and nuclear fuels are one of them.
i mean sure, choose a timescale large enough and even the sun becomes a fossil fuel, but thats silly: sipping-off-the-suns-emissions itself, the operation of solar panels is not really degrading anybodies quality of life, except perhaps those who might look down onto now reflecting rooftops… making them is of course power consuming, but we are making stuff that makes power which takes power… and instead of just nodding at each other and chugging along we start bickering about the not tasty, not smelly stuff that makes your hair fall out all funny like…and ogle at it? wtf?
but ok you know what?: sure but only if you are personally responsible to have that thing in your backyard and fix it when it inevitably shits itself. also: garbage days are all yours now
Sorgan71@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
the waste products are a non issue. Even if we chucked the waste products of every power plant into hospitals for terminally ill orphans who have nobel prizes the damage would not even come close to a hundredth of the damage coal and oil have caused already. Waste products are put into water until they become stable enough to be disposed of. Its not dangerous
Rakonat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
roflmao XD I’m sorry, but you trying to sound smart by saying how much energy a kg of U235 has, and then using the wrong unit (a unit of power, not of energy) is just the funniest thing ever XD.
And yeah, nuclear waste is kind of solvable, but it will be an issue for at least a thousand years to come, and that’s a LONG time… I can get that environmentalists are like “yeah, this is just another way of shoving our current issues FAAAAR into the future”. Even if we just bury it all in some safe space…
janet_catcus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
i do not think something that stays dangerous for longer than you have not shat your pants is negligible.
if shitting your pants was the way to get rid of radioactive waste, i would be all for it, but as it stands all you would be left with would be tainted with nobody to clean it up for you. and somebody would still have to take care of the radioactive waste… it doesnt just vanish. there are no organisms that eat it up and make it into foodstuffs for others.
maths can say it is negligible, but then sad hard reality kicks in and you have to be holding on to something that can kill not just you but anybody you tell to watch over you. this is not a place of honor
Rakonat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago