What? Why?
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maik@infosec.pub 8 months agoTo fuck with the training data. But don’t worry, most of the time it accepts it anyways.
rbn@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
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maik@infosec.pub 8 months agoTo fuck with the training data. But don’t worry, most of the time it accepts it anyways.
What? Why?
TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 8 months ago
That’s what he’s doing. Not why he’s doing it?
meekah@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’d assume it’s because he doesn’t want to hand out free labor.
dwindling7373@feddit.it 8 months ago
You are on Lemmy asking why would anybody fuck with Google?
blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Lemmy is cool and mainstream now bucko. Have you seen the amount of shit posts on your front page lately? If not, congrats, you’ve curated your feed about as much as you probably already did on reddit too lol.
prole@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Because fuck them, that’s why. Nobody, not a single person, is out there trying to make AI that will make the lives of average humans more livable. 100% of it is for corporate profit.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I don’t want to do a job that a machine would do better than me.
Yeah, that’s my problem, and, on a broader scale, society’s problem. When enough people get hungry, things will have to change. The alternative is…doing pointless labor that a machine could do better, just to prop up a failed system. Forced inefficiency. How depressing is that?
prole@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Well if the two options I have are: continue being able to afford to live while doing a job that can now be done by a machine, or to just let it happen with zero safety net and let the good vibes from the naive optimism of “if enough people go hungry, then things will have to change.” I’m sure that’ll be a great comfort in that time
TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 8 months ago
You’re not doing work for free. That’s a really weird way to look at it. You’re doing it to gain access to a service, an entirely optional one. It’s somewhat believable when people say oh, yes I have a car but I have to have a car, I’d like not to. But nobody is required to use GMail to live.
And yes, feel free to be an AI pessimist. You could quite well be right. It seems bizarre to me however to make an effort to sabotage this one specific AI training (which might stop cars from running us down) so that you can log into something which will also be used to train AI (to sell you shit). And then posting your opinion about it here, where it will be used to train an AI.
prole@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I feel like you think you just thought of something truly groundbreaking, “You criticize society yet you live in society. Curious.”
then_three_more@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The lolz.
Or to slow the inevitable AI takeover of society.
TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 8 months ago
Is it going to put a lot of… traffic light recognisers out of work?
prole@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Are you for real?
then_three_more@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yes. If you count taxi drivers, lorry drivers, bus drivers, delivery drivers.
I think mostly it’ll be the first option though, and a happy feeling from “sticking it to the man”.
myxi@feddit.nl 8 months ago
The data collected from these tools are used to train models that detect cars and stuff with a lot of accuracy. Decades of data from millions of users each day. Once these are perfected, they will be sold to smart car users as auto-driving mode and so on. These services are likely going to be subscription based to maximize the profits.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Not to mention that they’ll probably be used by cops to profile people long before then…
TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 8 months ago
Profile people as… traffic lights?
TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 8 months ago
Yes?
Sorry I’m not sure “why?” is a difficult question. People keep explaining that is happening as if this hasn’t been happening in various forms for 20 years.
If its “I don’t want to contribute to machine learning”, I’ve got exciting news for you about every post you are making on this site where every comment is publicly accessible and consumable.
prole@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I just don’t think many of us believe that, “it’s been happening in various forms for 20 years” is an acceptable reason to continue doing or accepting something.
You act as if Captchas themselves weren’t created to prevent corporations from gaming the system. Like you do realize that the only reason that “every post you are making on this site blahblah” is because corporations just had to exploit the system for profit at the expense of literally everyone.
So yeah, no. “You’ve been doing it already for 20 years” doesn’t cut it for me.