Not doubting you, but what do you mean by “anti-authouritarian?” Presumably you’ve read Engels’ On Authority so you know what they are operating under the pretense of, I can see anti-Marxist takes getting removed or downvoted. It is Lemmygrad after all, not Lemmy EZLN or Lemmy Catalonia.
Comment on unsure why we are surprised lol
lugal@lemmy.world 2 months agoI have an account on lemmygrad and when I created it, I was asked about my politics. They formally accepted every left ideology but when you say anything remotely anti-authoritarian, you get downvoted into oblivion
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
lugal@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I didn’t mean to disagree with you. Just add that they are formally open to other leftist viewpoints but not effectively.
And yes, you will get alot of strawmans like Engels’ On Authority. If you want an analysis of the text, this video debunks it quite well
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Are you an anti-Engels Marxist? I’m sorry, I think I actually agree with downvoting you, lol. That’s silly.
lugal@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No, I’m not a Marxist. I agree with him in some points and agree with some libertarian Marxists but at the end, they say alot of stuff Bakunin, Kropotkin, Goldman, … said long before
melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Lenin had some disagreements with Marx, i dont even like marx ans lenin is worse, and ‘marxist lenninist’ means ‘stalinist’. Which is even worse.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
What is a leftist, if not someone advocating collective owmership of Capital? Leftist isn’t a syononym for “good,” of course, but I fail to see how Marxist-Leninists aren’t leftists.
melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 2 months ago
In the USSR the serfs were still serfs, the workers still didn’t own the means of production, and there was still a tiny room of delusional shit sticks making all the decisions, often wildly irrationally.
Better than one guy doing it, but no more, or not much more communist than the UK or France.
SRo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
There is the fascist
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
In what manner at all? Fascism is fucking horrible, and I am talking about Marx and Engels. Unless, of course, you think Communism is fascist, in which case I really don’t know what to tell you.
ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Mind boggling. Like seriously, I am as left wing as they come and for me that is defined by anti-authoritarian views. Fascists aren’t bad because they are the wrong kind of fascist.
orrk@lemmy.world 2 months ago
to be fair, tankies are the fascist skinwalkers wearing the visage of the lefties they killed
Kedly@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Oh shit. I now I dont know if I like this, or “Leftist version of a Nazi Brony” more
melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Almost literally, if you know jack shit about the Russian revolution.
emmie@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Wait that actually makes sense doesn’t it? There were those opposing bolsheviks that weren’t just pure scum but also had socialist views.
Kedly@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I’ve recently come to the conclusion that they are the leftist version of Nazi Bronies, like, dude, you’re one of the first populations that your preferred rulers are going to purge.
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 months ago
Nah. People like that end up being pushed into paramilitary shit.
lugal@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I totally agree with you. That said, tankies will argue some shit why they are further left. You can go into that discussion about the semantics of left and distract from the fact that tankies are evil. Or stop “gatekeeping” leftness and argue why they are bad.