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Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 8 months agoYou said this:
I’m saying I don’t think it would be fair to call all men, in a blanket statement way, violent
I said this:
“Tell me, do you know how likely women are to be killed by men vs the other way around?”
“The problem with “not all men” is that there is an obvious follow up question: “which men?””
Now, if you can’t tell the difference here, if you really think I was making a blanket statement that all men are violent, I cannot help you.
You are completely wrong to call those blanket statements. If you’re curious to understand what I mean, then I will explain, but you need to say that you are curious to understand me. So far I have seen nothing but pettifoggery. I will not translate that word.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Sounds like you cannot help me since it all sounds like prejudiced behaviour towards a group with statistics being used to justify it.
I mean better late than never. I would’ve expected that to have been the first thing to have been said here, but instead the whole thing got sidetracked about your doubt towards the statistics.
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
Oh, what happened to “blanket statements”? Sounds like you’ve walked that back rather a long way to something a lot more vaguely characterised without any specific things you can point to.
So are you or are you not curious to understand what I am saying? I need to hear you say it before I waste another moment on this.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I don’t honestly what you mean with this. Unless you mean you edited your comments, the blanket statements, the discussion, it’s still there?
I’m saying yes I am curious and that you should’ve started with that. Instead we got sidetracked about your doubt towards the statistics, that didn’t go anywhere.
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
Since you said you are curious to understand me, I will extend one more attempt to help you understand. If you don’t work with me, I will stop.
Now, since you said “you should’ve started with that”, I feel like I need to explain that I have been saying exactly what I mean this entire time. There is no hidden message behind the words that I am about to reveal to you. I simply believe that there must be a misunderstanding here.
You tell me that these sentences are “blanket statements”:
Now, it’s not clear why you believe this, since at no point have I said that “all men” are anything. If you believe these are blanket statements, then I don’t know how to help you understand me unless you explain in detail what you believe these sentences mean.
I want you to paraphrase the messages you see, in your own words, so that I can understand what you think I was saying, so that I can explain whether or not I agree.
This appears to be a foundational issue for you, since when I asked what I said that offended you, you named these statements. So, if there’s any hope of reaching an understanding, this is where it starts.