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• Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Let’s apply this logic to racism!

  Black men usually get the talk at a very young age that they need to be super careful in every interaction with police or else they might be killed.

  Now, not all cops are trying to kill black men in traffic stops. But if you don’t know which cops will kill you on the flimsiest pretext, then this isn’t terribly useful to a black man trying not to get killed.

  Tell me, is it “racist” of these black men to be concerned about being killed by cops?

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  • ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cops aren’t a race. Actually basing this on racism would go something like this:

    “Of the 9,468 murder arrests in the US in 2017, 53.5% were black and 20.8% Hispanic.” Is it racist for cops to be more quick to use deadly force against black people and Hispanic people because they are convicted of violent crime more often than people of other races?

    The answer is yes, this is in fact racist.

    Footnote: The quoted statistic is the result of systemic racism and various societal issues in the US, and I suggest people read about why there is this discrepancy.

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    • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s not a perfect comparison, but the point is that these are people who are simply being extremely polite in response to avoid the potential threat of violence, and the other party is the one who has an undue likelihood of perpetrating that violence.

      In both cases, the violence is the bigotry, not the worry about who might inflict that bigotry.

      Some - wrong - people might say that black men worrying about being killed by a cop is racism because they are acting on information about their race. These are presumable the same people saying women are sexist for worrying about male violence. As always, noticing bigotry is in fact not the real bigotry.

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      • ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Let’s go back to the original example: a woman dating.

        Assume the woman is a lesbian. Would it be racist for her to apply the behavior in the post if she dated women of color, if her opinion was based on the statistic quoted in my last post?

        My answer would be the same: it would be racist.

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