I see it as the same crap that has MAGA where it’s at.
Objective truth didn’t get MAGA where they are, so you’re being silly here
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Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
While a lot of this (or all) may be true, I see it as the same crap that has MAGA where it’s at. Lots of conspiracy theories and conjecture about why the government is bad, but no real idea about what better is.
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Because this quote is objective truth, right? Of course it is.
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
It’s a quote from the guy who did these things admitting to the fact that he did them, yes.
Are you unfamiliar with who this is and that they said it? Cuz you can Google that
Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
But a quote from an interview twenty year prior that can’t be substantiated anywhere else is gospel, huh? Come on man…
TheDoozer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The difference is that this is verifiable, and the idea about what better is, is ending the war on drugs because it was blatantly wrong to begin with. It didn’t even have “good intentions,” and it does nothing but harm now.
MAGA is where it’s at because they hate for the sake of hate. There’s no “better” for them, unless it hurts others. They’ll “believe” whatever is convenient, because they just want to be angry, whether or not there is any truth to what they’re mad about.
There are mountains of difference, and to “both sides” every time the left points out a legitimately bad thing is sheer obfuscating nonsense.
Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
But you see, you are doing EXACTLY what they do. “It’s verifiable,” but you haven’t verified, have you? Or else you’d know it’s not necessarily fact, it’s contentious.
Yet, here you are preaching.
Secondly, to paint your opponent in a simple, degrading way is where fascism starts. The next step is to remove them as humans. There are people if all sorts on that side, just as this one. They care about their community, kids, etc, just like the rest of us. Are they misguided due to years of propaganda? I think so, but there’s propaganda all over, including the “communism is the solution” stuff that floats around this place.
PanoptiDon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Your link corroborates the post. This isn’t a matter of both sides are the same. If you can’t tell how horrible an act this is, the lives that were destroyed by this, or you just don’t care, there is nothing that can help you understand.