Comment on Okay, I'll go.😰

• rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Uh, are they literally depicting a minstrel-show black man kidnapping a white woman?

  Euro racism denial is like those confederate losers who say it’s “just about heritage.” Or WWII collectors who seem to ONLY gravitate toward third reich shit. It’s such a naked “well, technically…”

  source
• FishFace@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Where’s the hate/limitation I spoke of? Or I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.

  I also specifically didn’t say that the reaction makes something racist; rather I said it can make it indefensible. I feel like we’re not communicating well here.

  source

  • VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Americans tend to assume that any instance of a white person painting their face black is horrendous

    That implies that the instance we’re talking about, in this case Zwarte Piet, is not horrendous. See above image. I believe that is where the miscommunication is happening.

    source

    • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What exactly is it that you find horrendous? Pretend I’m a very sheltered teenager.

      source

      • VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Black people look like people, not drow elves with giant red lips. It’s a racial caricature. I’ve stated and restated that. Dutch Christmas celebrators themselves recognize that.

        Old Zwarte Piet Costume: Image

        New Sooty Pete Costume:

        Image

        I’ve explained as best I can. This feels like willful ignorance. It’s up to you now to read what we’ve said and figure out why we’ve said it. Trust me, if you reread this thread you’ll figure it out.

        source

        • -> View More Comments