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jontree255@lemmy.world 1 day agoThe pain threshold is not definitely not high enough to get the average American to risk everything.
I also think most people are waiting for the election to solve problems. Which is stupid, I know, but like I said in my post having a bunch of people breaking into stores and destroying property right now will just boost Trump. Right now he’s fucking floundering and extremely unpopular.
If we’re gonna have mass protests it needs to be after the election when he tries to deny results.
PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Literally every time this is brought up one of the top answers is ‘its not a good time to act’. When will it be a good time to act?
jontree255@lemmy.world 1 day ago
When he tries to deny or overturn the results of elections from 50 separate states (again) because he’s a whiny crybaby bitch and most Americans are sick of his shit?
Did you not read the first part of my comment when I said the pain threshold isn’t high enough?
Did you forget my other comment (that you bookmarked) where I said people ARE acting every day to resist ICE?
PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Then you all need to reevaluate what is an acceptable pain threshold.
jontree255@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You and I don’t get to decide that for other individuals or the collective.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
PlaidBaron is right though, why all the downvotes?
You think you’ll all rise up after an event that already happened once, that is delusional IMO.
I don’t have a perfect answer to your mess, but I don’t think waiting is the answer.
Good luck, you need it.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 hours ago
We are acting. It’s just diffuse and not loud. And, granted, it may not be enough.
For now the focus is on the election, to get the opposition party in power, to reform the opposition party away from neoliberalism, to plan to, for the next two years hold accountable everyone in the political class and plutocratic class who engaged in corruption and self dealing.
The fight doesn’t end there. We still need to rebalance the federal powers. We still need to make anew the regulatory bodies, to reforge international relations and rethink our roll in the world, to create social safety nets, to reconsider our national security model… the list is long, and the problems that need addressing have been around since before Trump, just as the problems that beleaguere Europe have been festering for a while.
The question is if we can confront the disproportionate power of the patrician class and business interests though the political system. The preponderance of data centers disrupting neighborhoods, and of officials who have signed NDAs shows us the corruption is entrenched even at the local level.
The American people need to organize twelve million strong under a common manifesto. If we can do thatn there are several options open to us, violent or otherwise (though we are erring towards non-violent) that will disrupt industry and overwhelm responders, and leverage the American economy against moneyed interests. And we’ll need to have a clear set of demands when we do it.
WappleFF27@feddit.online 1 day ago
As someone who isn’t even rallying calls to action, but simply suggesting that people exercise the second amendment and get involved in their community, and having those ideas rejected?
Literal mad max scenario.
PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Me? I never said anything about the second ammendment. I know you Americans are gun happy but thats not what I said.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
We’ve just learned from the Civil Rights movement…
Black men and women tried exercising their First Amendment rights, but nobody listened until they exercised their Second Amendment rights.
WappleFF27@feddit.online 1 day ago
You were asking when the time for action would be.
I’m telling you americans will never act.