I don’t really understand either. Caffeine wise, I’d think decaf + a shot = 1 shot, not 3.
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LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 11 months ago
wouldn’t a decaf “with an extra shot” just be one shot? since originally it would have no caffeine, but they want to add one shot.
squiblet@kbin.social 11 months ago
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Seems like it’s being used as a measurement of amount of coffee, not caffeine. Normal size is “two shots” and decaf (normal size, so “two shots”) with extra shot (of more decaf) would be “three shots”.
At least that’s what I was thinking happened. Not sure how it would change the taste or anything. Maybe it is shots of coffee in milk or something?
squiblet@kbin.social 11 months ago
It seems like OP is talking about an espresso drink. Yes, that’s typically espresso in water or milk, maybe steamed milk/froth. The decaf would contribute flavor but little caffeine. I’m not sure why OP is confused about this.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I think they were thinking of it in terms of caffeine when those wanting the extra shot were thinking of the flavour.
fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Caffeine is a colourless, odourless, flavourless alkaloid that is a component of espresso coffee.
If you could magically remove all caffeine without removing anything else, you wouldn’t be able to taste the difference.
xionzui@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Is it really flavorless? I’ve always had the impression it adds a bit of a bitter flavor
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Isn’t it just a component of coffee, not specifically espresso
fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Yeah. IDK why I said “espresso”.
ABCDE@lemmy.world 11 months ago
A ‘shot’ is a portion in coffee speak, like a shot of vodka is a standard measurement. A flat white has two shots of espresso as standard, for example. Decaf espresso/coffee would be one or two shots of decaf coffee, still won’t have any (well, much) caffeine, just makes the flavour stronger.
squiblet@kbin.social 11 months ago
I’m aware of how espresso drinks work. I was picturing the decaf being brewed decaf, not an espresso drink. So in terms of flavor, it contributes, in terms of caffeine, it does not.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 11 months ago
So all of this assumes it’s being mixed with milk or water, right? Because otherwise having two or three shots wouldn’t alter the taste because it would just be more of the same
ABCDE@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yes, there are many types of coffee produced with milk or water, as well as with ice and other ingredients. Some are produced with steamed milk, others with foam, a mixture of the two, one or two shots, in different amounts, with flavoured syrups, ice, or just with a certain amount of water to bulk it out.
You can have a double espresso (two shots only, nothing else), but even that can be short or long, which means there is less or more water used when creating each shot of espresso. Short espressos are popular in Italy, usually cost a euro, and would be taken standing up and finished in a minute or two (or even instantly); the amount would be about the same as an alcoholic shot.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 11 months ago
It’s interesting to me because for me the coffee (not espresso) as is the default, with no added water. So the idea that it’s assumed it is mixed threw me off. Here the assumption the coffee is “regular” (drip, french press, basically not espresso) and if you want water or milk in it, that’s extra thing. Nobody puts in water in that coffe though hah, it’s just whether you want milk and sugar.
Ephera@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
I actually thought we were talking about shots of alcohol at first, because I’ve heard of people putting that in their coffee. Didn’t quite make sense why you’d sell every coffee with alcohol, though…
joemo@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
You can make espresso with decaf coffee beans.
I wonder if they make their coffee more like an Americano, so you do a shot (or two, or three) or espresso and then add some hot water. This takes the traditional espresso shot, which is more concentrated, and changes it to a more drip/filter style taste.
m_randall@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
It’s a shot of espresso which is only about 2oz (60ml). I’m guessing people are ordering a latte or cappuccino or something similar which is milk and coffee. The extra shot will make the drink have a stronger coffee taste.
xionzui@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
A single shot of espresso is only around 20-25ml. A double shot is the most common amount you’ll get when ordering a drink at a coffee shop, and 60ml is on the high end of that. Here’s even more about this topic specifically: youtu.be/F4wrUP4c5P4