Comment on Epic Games Launcher preview arrives - Native Linux support, Fortnite for Linux is coming and upgraded Easy Anti-Cheat

• ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m definitely not an expert, but it looks like the only software that they’re looking to implement above and beyond what comes with your distro is that systemd module, so I think that anti-cheat hook is what we’ll have to look out for. It ought to be pretty obvious when it’s about to happen, since I think that will be the only time you install a game from a game launcher and get prompted for an admin password for installation.

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  • Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Requiring TPM and Secure Boot attestation is another problem, especially if it limits you to approved signing keys since self-signed keys would still allow you to modify the system how you want.

    That and the risk of gaming distributions including Epic’s crap by default like they do for Steam, though I doubt any distro worth its salt would do that.

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    • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      TPM alone is a non-starter. Loads of people with old PCs moved to Linux in recent years due to Windows 11 requiring a TPM 2.0 chip, and now is hardly the best time to expect people to upgrade their hardware.

      But then they’re no worse off whether on Linux or not. I expect my next PC will have TPM2 enabled by default and will play nicely with everything I use, but I have no intention of using kernel level anti-cheat regardless. If you do want that, and there are people who do, then it’s the same thing on Windows except you can use an OS that isn’t utter garbage to daily drive.

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• False@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That actually all looks pretty reasonable for what they’re trying to do. There’s very little novel there, they’re mostly leveraging existing security features

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  • Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m not sure about that. Mandating a locked-down system with signed modules will be a tough sell for the Linux crowd depending on how strict they make it. Removing the ability to customize your kernel and restricting what modules you can run goes against the entire open-source ethos.

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    • False@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah that sucks for sure. Unfortunately doing all that does solve some real problems outside of videogames

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      • black0ut@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Those problems would be solved by server side anti cheat. There’s no way to solve cheating with client side anti cheat. The only reason they do it is because it’s cheaper and they can get your data. Using AC as an excuse to lock down or limit systems is similar to using kids as an excuse to ask for everyone’s ID and ban VPNs.

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    • Goodeye8@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Immutable distros are against the open-source ethos? That’s definitely a take.

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      • Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Even with an immutable distro you’re able to take the source and modify and recompile it to fit your needs. If EAC only accepts kernels signed by “trusted partners” that freedom goes away.

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