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webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• Jiral@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You don’t need PVC to create durable cabling.

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  • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And give up the opportunity to get applause for planned obedience? That is not how you capitalism.

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    • glibg10b@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      planned obedience

      Might want to proofread that

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• edinbruh@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Whats the matter with PVC specifically?

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  • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Supposedly greenpeace calls it “the poison plastic” and “the most enviromentally damaging plastic”

    Gonna have to ask them for their scientific sources.

    Personally i think plastics are fine if the product is actually durable. I take good care of my things. My 15 year old ipad mini is practically mint and if it wasnt for “making it more enviromental” i would still be using its original cable also.

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    • myyass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      This is the paradox. I still have old cables from 20+ years ago, the new stuff degrades. At least the woven/braided cables seem like they might last longer.

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      • Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It’s not a paradox. There is a reason why those old cables don’t degrade, and it’s the same reason why fish are full of microscopic shredded plastic that will never go away.

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    • AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Personally i think plastics are fine if the product is actually durable

      My problem is this just kicks the can down the road. Some day, no matter what, that plastic is becoming waste. Maybe it gets recycled, but most likely, it doesn’t. If it doesn’t need to be plastic, it should not be plastic. Questioning if it’ll last long enough is just asking if it can last long enough to be someone else’s problem.

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      • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Definitely a good point if if doesn’t actually need to be plastic, i highly prefer natural materials overall. But thats not always practical.

        I dont get the “someone elses problem” though. If the item is still perfectly usable then why would the next owner not also just want to use it? I personally value a hand me down that “served” my family for ages over “new thing”

        If it is broken then it should just get recycled.

        Under current consumerism the pattern is that shit breaks and you buy it new, which causes us to psychologicly devalue the item (and thus materials) as it ages, i believe this is why so many plastics end up non recycled.

        If items where durable, reliable, repairable. People will be more capable to perceive their value and be more concious about what happens to it after it breaks because losing it will hurt. Not quite like but somewhat similar to how we care about what happens to remains after death.

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  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Can’t burn or recycle it without releasing chlorine

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