Comment on Would you want to live forever in an infinite game?

• thingsiplay@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  If you understood my answer, then it is “Its not possible”. This is not about “realistically or theoretically”, it is impossible. So any copy of the information that builds you inside of a computer, is not you. Therefore the question doesn’t make sense. No one can live inside a computer.

  I’d like to have the option to kill myself in case

  You are already dead. What you want is, that the machine code representing you (which is not you) should have an option to be killed.

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  • Nelots@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This is not about “realistically or theoretically”, it is impossible.

    Do you… not understand the point of a hypothetical question? Nobody cares if it’s possible. We are, for the sake of the question, positing that it IS, in fact, somehow, completely possible, and asking what you would do in that situation. In THIS pretend scenario, it IS the real you, so it is irrelevant if it’s not possible IRL.

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    • thingsiplay@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Do you… not understand the point of a hypothetical question? Nobody cares if it’s possible.

      Do you not understand this is not about being possible? I also didn’t know that I had to ask you how to answer the question. The question doesn’t make sense and I explained it enough. Nobody can live forever in an infinite game, not because its not possible, because it makes no sense.

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      • Nelots@piefed.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The question makes perfect sense to literally everyone else here (as seen by the dozen answers already given), that you’re not able or willing to engage beyond your assumption that it isn’t is on you.

        I don’t understand what you’re so held up by. Is it the infinite time thing? Okay, then the “game” goes on until the heat death of the universe. This is effectively the same question, as a period of time that long may as well be infinite to us.

        Is it the copying thing you were going on about in another comment? Okay, add another hypothetical to circumvent this. Our universe is a perfect simulation being run by a Superintelligence beyond our comprehension (a real one, not some chatbot the annoying orange wants to rename). We are already code in a machine, “death” just means having your code moved out of the main simulation and into a separate afterlife simulation. No copying is needed, this is the original “you” code being moved over. Would you be okay with/like this?

        This is the exact same question but with an unnecessary added layer of philosophical baggage that you wont engage without for some reason.

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  • Jump365@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That’s not what is being asked. OP put right in the post “afterlife” as in. Nobody is copying you into a PC. The post assumes that an eternal afterlifr exists, and in that scenario (which is possible, we simply do not know) would you choose a game to lice in. Like if heaven/hell were minecraft, would that be something you would want?

    That’s it. It’s not about uploading our minds in our current alive world.

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    • thingsiplay@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That’s not what is being asked. OP put right in the post “afterlife” as in.

      That is being asked. I am talking that there is no afterlife if you copy yourself. The “afterlife” is meant to be “overcome the death” by cheating through copies. It’s not expressed with those words, but the logical application is a copy if we talk about this subject.

      Nobody is copying you into a PC.

      But that is the topic. It is about making an exact copy of yourself in a videogame (infinite game). I quote the article:

      A game consists of players, an interface, an environment, and gameplay. All of these elements are readily accessible in a computer simulation such that an entity capable of simulating configurations of time/space/matter/energy would also be capable of instantiating a simulation which conscious energy may exist within.

      Rather than limit possibilities to a single perspective, I dream of infinite games created and refined by their players in innumerable variants. The possibilities for play include all of the most hoped-for afterlives and offer other novel experiences to explore.

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      • nyctre@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        The word “copy” isn’t used in the article nor the op. You continue to engage in bad faith with a simple question instead of just answering it, for some reason. Imagine you could transfer your consciousness into a simulation like in Tron or whatever. That’s what they mean. Not a copy. But your actual self. Or if that’s too hard to accept, just think of a scenario where you’re the copy. You spawn into a world like that. What do you do? Do you play or do you just nope out?

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