Jitler, I’d say I expected better, but I’m not as comfortable lying as you clearly are, and my views aren’t dependent on lies. You’re having trouble keeping your story straight and it shows.

The gap is you thinking whatever they achieved with the “pretext” will not disappear with the last hamas members surrendering.

The pretext is killing Hamas. No Hamas, no pretext. Even you can’t be this stupid - this isn’t a lie worth telling. If Israel isn’t trying to kill Hamas, are you just biting the bullet and admitting they’re committing a genocide to establish an ethnostate?

I’m merely pointing at elephants in the room. What hamas have been doing was a mistake and a lost opportunity for Palestinians.

Yeah - Hamas are bad and counter-productive. As you point to the elephant in the room, there’s a pack of genocidal monsters gunning down every Palestinian in sight… not to mention a bunch of journalists, aid workers and Israelis - you’ll have to forgive my suspicion at your singular fixation on the elephant.

Defending hamas you mean? Yes, I don’t see why anyone would do that if not for the sake of hoping they would do more useless attacks, instead of doing something meaningful in current situation.

Yes - calling Hamas monsters and many other negative things could only be because I am defending them and want them to do more useless attacks. Another lie too transparently stupid to be worth telling.

IDF: we need to kill hamas terrorists.
Hamas: gotta hide ourselves and let them kill Palestinians instead.
You: Israel wants to kill Palestinians, not hamas. Hamas better hide themselves.

Israel: We want to genocide Palestine Hamas: Thanks for the funding and helping us displace the secular moderates - I guess we’ll do exactly what we said we would and kill Israelis Israel: oh no… I guess we’ll have to genocide Palestine - can’t be helped - we couldn’t know who is and isn’t Hamas… Thanks for the continued support, US.

Difference is that I can just point to actual quotes from Israeli leaders rather than sharing - but more on that later.

So this is why I haven’t been seeing any discussion where people like you condemned hamas terrorists attacks in past years?

I wasn’t on Lemmy until a couple of months ago, so you can’t possibly be talking about me. That said, I haven’t seen it as particularly relevant to comment on it the past few years - particularly when Israel were killing orders of magnitude more Palestinians while maintaining concentration camp conditions in Palestine. The recent escalation to clear genocide changed that.

Because by your logic you need to be able to do something to correct the situation in order to be allowed to condemn it? I see. But then not getting what are you trying to achieve here.

That was your moronic logic - not mine. I’ve been comfortable condemning Israel, Hamas and the Nazis, as your logic from your last reply means that you’d need to insist Hitler did nothing wrong. It’s clear you’re struggling to keep your lies straight, so here’s a refresher…

Why do you ask me to condemn something if, by your own words, only the US is able to stop Israel? I’m not the US and they will not listen to me.

Again - this is all plain to see and too dumb and transparent a lie to be worth telling.

Let’s start with the fact that nazi didn’t need to construct the “pretext” that would rely on a group (that they’ve put in power) that would attack them with useless missiles. They’ve just attacked. Meaningful difference.

The only meaningful difference you can identify between the actions and rhetoric of Israel and early Nazi Germany is the fact that Nazi Germany wasn’t dependent on the support of an external party they needed to placate? I won’t argue with that - what do you think that says about the regime you’re running cover for?

You still haven’t managed to condemn Israel, and you’ve spent an awful lot of time whining about the comparatively minor evils of Hamas when you’ve made it clear Israel is comparable to Nazi Germany. Why is that?

Now for those quotes I promised you…

Prime Minister Netanyahu

They (Israel/IDF) are committed to completely eliminating this evil from the world,”

and

You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. And we do remember.

and

I don’t call them human animals because that would be insulting to animals

“Defence” minister Galant

We are fighting human animals, and we are acting accordingly

Kallner…

Nakba to the enemy now! This day is our Pearl Harbour. We will still learn the lessons. Right now, one goal: Nakba! A Nakba that will overshadow the Nakba of 48. A Nakba in Gaza and a Nakba for anyone who dares to join!

Atbaryan…

erasing all of Gaza from the face of the Earth. Gaza needs to be wiped out.

Halevi…

goals for this victory. One, there is no more Muslim land in the land of Israel. After we make it the land of Israel, Gaza should be left as a monument, like Sodom.”

In case you don’t remember your Torah, here’s a refresher on the Amalekites… I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.