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deft@lemmy.wtf 1 day agoThis is such a dumb thing to say.
Do you think racists don’t exist in Russia? Do you think Soviet Russia was only good guys ever? Do you think Russia today is only good guys?
Absolutely pathetic argument
electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
You seem confused. I don’t think any of that, and I don’t see where I gave any indication that I did. I know that Russia and Ukraine are both full of racists. I’m annoyed by the fact that all these redditors have such a cartoon-level view of this conflict.
deft@lemmy.wtf 1 day ago
I’m not confused. These questions outline the absurdity of “bUt AzOV!!”
Do you think military units consist of the same people what like 80 years later? Do you think they categorize military units by personal belief? It’s an absurd thing to say and it’s a complete whataboutism meant to derail.
People who try to say this have one goal – justifying the invasion and attempted cultural erasure of the Ukrainian people. It’s a disgusting, ignorant and pathetic argument that either makes you a Russian shill or a complete absolute fool. It’s your decision which you wanna be or just learn from it and don’t try to use such silly arguments which do nothing but detract from a discussion and label you as a moron.
Discussing the history of Ukraine is different than justifying this attempt by Russia to destroy them. If we’re judging countries by their history as worthiness to destroy them then that’s not a conversation Russia will come out on top.
Ukraine is a sovereign nation that deserves to decide their future. They are not a puppet state, they have done nothing to deserve this attempted destruction of their culture. Justifying it is pathetic as fuck.
electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Ah so you also have a cartoon-level understanding of this. Unsurprising. It’s not just Azov though, BTW. Ukrainian national heroes largely comprise Nazi collaborators. Still (resurgently) actively celebrated. It’s even giving the Poles some mixed feelings.
deft@lemmy.wtf 1 day ago
So we are judging a country by it’s heroes then? Okay.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_the_Terrible
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavrentiy_Beria
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_the_Great
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_of_Russia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryno-Skachevsky_gang
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexey_Milchakov
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Vorobyov
en.wikipedia.org/…/Battle_Organization_of_Russian…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Kapustin_(militant)
What a disgusting place. Kinda fucked up you support the genocide of Russians because of their racist and cruel history but who am i to judge