Comment on Useful things at the mall

• db2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Leakage and opening from motion, terrible idea to actually wear. Decent deterrent laying around though especially if you’ve got any artistic skill to make it look used.

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  • protist@retrofed.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Assuming the construction is decent, this looks perfectly fine to me. Really depends on how well machined those threads are

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• nialv7@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Look at the barcode on the price label. To me that says AI slop

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  • DarthFreyr@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That just looks like typical camera and compression artifacts on a fine detail pattern, not like a generative AI that doesn’t actually know what it’s drawing so it starts making inaccurate extrapolations? What about that makes you think it was done by AI?

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    • nialv7@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s the typical artifact created by AI when drawing multiple parallel lines, it’s immediately noticeable to me. This doesn’t look at all like image compression artifacts to me if that’s what you are saying.

      It’s fine I guess. Ordinary people (not a nerd like me) don’t notice this kind of stuff.

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      • DarthFreyr@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Can you specifically describe what you are seeing then that stands out as an AI artifact? I am genuinely interested, not just try to challenge your statement. Here’s my observations and thoughts on it:

        What I see is the JPEG compression blocks around the lines and characters where the chunk changes from a smooth color to a much noisier square; what looks to have once been much blockier aliased pixels forming the barcode lines that got scaled up and blurred, so now there are distinct vertical segments a within each line, as well as a noticeable gridding on the small characters (some of which might also be my viewer); and then possibly some sort of moire effect from the slightly angled barcode lines interacting with the grid of the pixels and/or JPEG compression chunk boundaries. As with many images on the internet, it looks like it has changed size and format in the past, and it’s possible that someone composting an image from different sources would end up with different artifacting in different places.

        Given how small the details of the barcode are, I think they would have to come pretty much entirely from the VAE decoding itself, not from the typical generative AI denoising that we would typically associate with hallucinations, extra fingers, and all the other “classic” tells of older image generation models as well as the less-specific “wrongness” of some more recent ones. So it would AFAIK end up having to be a pretty specific artifact to the actual base model being used, and even then just doing a VAE encoding into the compressed, many-dimensional latent-space and immediately decoding would produce the same artifact, and that’s hardly an “AI” process on its own.

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      • Candice_the_elephant@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’d say it’s not by the irregularities on the shelf, ai rarely puts in those off topic details with that much care and irregularity. Unless ai was asked to use an original image as base then impose the product image.

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  • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixelation

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  • nialv7@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lol it even has OpenAI’s watermark…

    I know gloating is bad but like, I told you so, feel dumb now?

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    • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The plug image portion is literally from the page I linked. Does AI merge images into other images?

      What watermark? What are you using to verify that it is AI, an unreliable AI checking tool?

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      • nialv7@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes, AI has been able to take reference images for quite a while now.

        And OpenAI generated images have invisible watermarks embedded into them so you can check if it’s AI generated definitively. It’s not an AI detector. Here: openai.com/research/verify/

        It’s sad how tech illiterate and yet still confidently wrong people can be.

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    • MrQuallzin@pie.eyeofthestorm.place ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Imagine using the hallucination tool to check for hallucinations

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      • nialv7@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Honestly sad people can be so wrong and arrogant. Educate yourself a bit: youtu.be/kVXp6UNVPTo

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