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• boonhet@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The law, incidentally, is also what makes it illegal for said capitalists to kill you for example. Why do you think they always want their industries deregulated, E.g when it comes to safety regulations.

  Doesn’t get much better under communism either since party elites are allowed to do anything they want and enrich themselves in the process.

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  • balsoft@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The law, incidentally, is also what makes it illegal for said capitalists to kill you for example

    This only limits certain actions, not killing in general. There are ways that capitalists legally kill people all the time, like by enforcing car-centric infrastructure or with climate change or by refusing necessary healthcare in privatized healthcare systems or by evicting tenants.

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    • boonhet@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yes, but under libertarianism that would all be legal. So I’m not sure life without laws would be all that much better than life with laws. Would give even more power to the elites.

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      • balsoft@lemmy.ml ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m just saying that the legal system is not here to protect the working class against capitalists, it’s there to (1) protect capitalists from the working class, (2) moderate conflicts between capitalists. This means that some particularly gruesome activities are moderated to prevent outright revolts, but less visible killings are permitted.

        If we want to make a legal system that actually protects the working class, the first thing it needs to do is prohibit private property over means of production to prevent unlimited capital accumulation.

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  • FlyingCircus@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Those laws are always temporary under capitalism, just look at the deregulation happening now in the US. Meanwhile China has gradually been improving its worker protections for almost a century, with almost no setbacks.

    And speaking of China, if you are a senior party member of the CPC and you use it to enrich yourself, you get executed. As usual, accusations of communist misdeeds by capitalists are just confessions.

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  • Tiger666@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Who went to jail for PFOA’s?

    Who went to jail after the 2008 debacle that almost crashed the world economy?

    Laws in capitalistic countries protect capital. You are a fool for not understanding this.

    Safety regulations are there to protect capital as well because without healthy safe workers you will not be able to run your business.

    Ask yourself why safety is routed through HR in your company.

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  • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Surely you have examples of a successful transition from socialism to communism and then it’s failure, then?

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    • boonhet@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Are you stalking me now?

      No, I have no examples of a successful transition from to communism because it can’t really happen at scale with humans in charge. The “vanguard” will never relinquish control. Why would they? Someone else would take the role anyway.

      Maybe one day we’ll have real AGI to handle it.

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      • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        So you’ve got no examples of what happens under capitalism happening under communism, yet seem very sure about it being an inevitable outcome.

        Oh God you’re an AI enthusiast?

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