Is the whole damn thing surrounded by a fence?
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chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 month agoI went there, but they wanted to charge like 40 bucks a person to see the crater, so we left.
M137@lemmy.today 1 month ago
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m not sure if it’s all fenced but the entire thing (including the road) is on private land, so walking around it is trespassing.
There’s only 1 road going there and it ends at the visitor’s center, and impact crater walls are higher than surrounding terrain, so unless you get past the visitor’s center all you see is a hill.
COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Yes, the entire crater is surrounded by a fence and on private property. It’s not worth the admission price just to see a crater imo. It’s a national landmark, not a national/state park. Unfortunately that designation means very little other than the owner being eligible for some tax breaks so long as they keep it preserved. I find it insane that such a landmark wouldn’t be taken over by the state for preservation.
lemmygarden@lemmy.today 1 month ago
That’s a long drive to turn around. The museum and visitors center was more interesting than the Crater.
It was very gusty winds when I visited, so only a brief time outside observing the Crater. There was a large hunk of meteorite inside, an educational lecture, and a museum. It was one of the highlights of my trip but it’s not for everyone.
I recall someone else turning around and saying it was too expensive when I was purchasing my tickets.
The drive was so gusty that the wind was pushing the car while I was driving it. What a day to remember!
kossa@feddit.org 1 month ago
That’s a bit steep.
Like, I never went there, and just saw the crater for free.
scytale@piefed.zip 1 month ago
Is it not possible to pull over just short of the visitor center and see it from there? I guess you won’t really be able to see down into it?
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 month ago
MBech@feddit.dk 1 month ago
I find it incredibly weird that was as people, respect it when someone says “That crater created by tons of falling space stuff many millions of years ago, is mine! No one can look at it, unless you pay me!”. I mean, wtf? How does that make sense? What asswipe sold that crater at some point in history?
lastweakness@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Isn’t the concept of land ownership already weird enough?
MBech@feddit.dk 1 month ago
I can follow the idea of owning a piece of land, where other people can’t just be. Somewhere where people can’t just take things from, or alter by cutting down a tree f.eks.
But owning land in order to keep people away from it, with the only purpose being to make people pay to view the piece of land is crossing the line.
I don’t know where the line exactly is, but it’s somewhere between having a place you live or a place where you use the land for a direct benefitial purpose for the community, however large or small, and keeping people away from a piece of land with the purpose of manufacturing scarcity in order to get paid to allow people on said land, without an actual beneficial purpose for the community.
The community would have a lot more benefit from the crater, if the person didn’t keep people away from it for no other reason than greed. The same can’t (at least not always) be said about a farm, or your livingroom.
KombatWombat@lemmy.world 1 month ago
In this case the land that contains the crater is valuable because it is uniquely fascinating to visitors, so I would treat it like a national park. It makes sense to reserve it as an exceptional public resource even granting private land ownership as a general practice.
lastweakness@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Why can’t the same be said about a farm? The only value in a crater of this sort is spectacle and maybe it is interesting from a geological history standpoint. But every piece of land must have its own geological history and I love seeing farms. So what does that mean for land ownership? I personally find the arrogance of man to be interesting and weird at the same time. “Look, we carved up the place that created us and decided we’ll trade them.” It’s simultaneously very animalistic like how big cats have territories and also uniquely awfully engineered just for mankind.
I mean, someone has to own it. The community? But who in the community? An organization? The local government? Then, what if they charge money? This kinda situation is unavoidable. I’m not saying it should be abolished, I just find it interesting.