Comment on Just to get this straight. If I stand outside a voting center and give each person 500 bucks to vote for me. That is illegal? But if I am a Dipshit In Chief and offer 5k that is 100 percent legal?

Devial@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• VitoRobles@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Holy fuck this is the stupidest take I ever heard. Congrats! You’re so fucking stupid.

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  • Devial@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So you’re saying my comment is a worse take than literally everything MAGAt and Trump have done and said over the past years ? Really ?

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    • VitoRobles@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is like child logic. Are you under 18? Because thatll explain it.

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      • Devial@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Literally just going by what you said. Verbatim.

        I also notice that you took time to reply to this comment, but completely ignored the other one where I substantively refute your point. Very intellectually mature and honest of you.

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  • Devial@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes, UBI gives people much, much MORE money than a one time bribe.

    If it’s so stupid, explain to me what is legally the difference between a politician promising to pass a UBI law of they’re elected, and a politician promising to pass a law governing a one time government payment ?

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• flandish@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  direct payment in exchance for a vote.

  the former in your example benefits even those who do not vote for you.

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• phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  One difference is that you’d be lying avputbthe former whereas the latter would be a political thing you’d kinda have to do

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  • Devial@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A) who says I’m lying

    B) in what utopia do you live where politicians never break campaign promises

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• BlindFrog@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Can’t tell the difference between “I will pay you to vote the way I want” vs “I will fight for progressive policies to set a minimum standard quality of life”, smh

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  • Devial@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Did you even read my comment ? I never even came close to claiming the two things are morally/ethically the same, I literally state exact opposite explicitly more than once.

    But legally both situations are a politician promising to pass legislation that gives voters an unconditional direct financial benefit, if the politicians win their election. How are the situations differently LEGALLY ?

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• isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yeah I agree. There’s a lot of campist motivated reasoning in these threads.

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