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Comment on Just to get this straight. If I stand outside a voting center and give each person 500 bucks to vote for me. That is illegal? But if I am a Dipshit In Chief and offer 5k that is 100 percent legal?

Devial@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

If I stand outside a voting and promise to give each person 1000$ a month for the rest of their life of they vote for a candidate I like, that’s illegal.

It I stand om stage at a campaign and promise that, it’s called Universal Basic Income, is a legitimate policy suggestion and perfectly acceptable campaign promise.

So where’s the line ?

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flandish@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
direct payment in exchance for a vote.

the former in your example benefits even those who do not vote for you.

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VitoRobles@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Holy fuck this is the stupidest take I ever heard. Congrats! You’re so fucking stupid.

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- Devial@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  So you’re saying my comment is a worse take than literally everything MAGAt and Trump have done and said over the past years ? Really ?
  
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- Devial@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Yes, UBI gives people much, much MORE money than a one time bribe.
  
  If it’s so stupid, explain to me what is legally the difference between a politician promising to pass a UBI law of they’re elected, and a politician promising to pass a law governing a one time government payment ?
  
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BlindFrog@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Can’t tell the difference between “I will pay you to vote the way I want” vs “I will fight for progressive policies to set a minimum standard quality of life”, smh

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- Devial@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Did you even read my comment ? I never even came close to claiming the two things are morally/ethically the same, I literally state exact opposite explicitly more than once.
  
  But legally both situations are a politician promising to pass legislation that gives voters an unconditional direct financial benefit, if the politicians win their election. How are the situations differently LEGALLY ?
  
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isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Yeah I agree. There’s a lot of campist motivated reasoning in these threads.

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phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
One difference is that you’d be lying avputbthe former whereas the latter would be a political thing you’d kinda have to do

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- Devial@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  A) who says I’m lying
  
  B) in what utopia do you live where politicians never break campaign promises
  
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