I’m still sad about the day the real Opera with the presto rendering engine died. And while Vivaldi is getting many of the features and functionality, it’s still a chromium rebuild. I guess it just takes too much money to build your own rendering engine anymore.
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Poggervania@kbin.social 11 months agoI mean, you can argue that Google actually has a monopoly on web browsers right now. iirc Firefox takes a ton of money from Google, so if the choices are “Google’s proprietary browser” or “a non-Chromium browser backed by Google” (EDIT: unless you’re on Apple hardware and use Safari), then Google comes out on top either way.
Wish we could get another good browser engine that isn’t Chromium, WebKit, or Quantum.
jmp242@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
clgoh@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I guess it just takes too much money to build your own rendering engine anymore.
Even Microsoft couldn’t do it.
barsoap@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Heck even Google couldn’t do it, they used Apple’s WebKit. And even Apple couldn’t do it, they used KDE’s KHTML. Speaking of KHTML: Konqueror is still around, though they’ve already decided to get rid of KHTML completely and move to one of the forks, development pretty much stalled since 2016.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
And it was so fast, awww. And had a built-in BitTorrent client which didn’t suck balls and didn’t feel excessive.
And all that caching.
otter@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Ehh
There’s a clear difference between accepting money from an entity and letting it control things and make decisions. Pushing for a full and clear separation from any controversial entity is how projects die.
I’d love for Firefox to be fully funded through small anonymous public donations in an ideal world. As it is, I don’t see an issue from taking Google’s money to do something that most users would do anyways.
If the default search wasn’t google, I’m certain even more users would bail on Firefox. Anyone who does want an alternative search engine is capable of clicking on it during installation.
superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Firefox might be able to survive on donations, if Mozilla’s CEO stopped giving herself raises
Zworf@beehaw.org 11 months ago
They don’t even want our money. They just let you donate to Mozilla foundation, which does other projects.
Firefox is developed by Mozilla corporation which is funded by the google deal.
Jack@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
There are worse things than death, like being successful by fucking people over and/or making the biosphere unlivable.