The only way we can work together as a people is through the almighty dollar or Sun God worship. Anything else is ridiculous.
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Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 days agoHow anarchism actually works:
“These suckers are socially obligated to give me free lemonade if I look like I really need it”
“Fuck you, you can’t have my lemons to make lemonade for that slacker, I need my lemons”
“No one wants to provide the materials and do the dangerous work of fixing my roof for free! And now my house will collapse and I’ll have nowhere to live…”
Folstar@lemmus.org 5 days ago
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 days ago
What makes you think people work together even with the threat/promise of those two things?
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 5 days ago
Bro has never lived anywhere but buttfuck suburbia and it shows. I’d ask how your neighbors are doing but you dont know.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 days ago
One of them lost a roof during some recent storms. He just moved into the neighborhood and no one had his contact info. I found his house listing on zillow, called his realtor and managed to get her to get him home in time to get his pets and documents secure before the next wave of storms hit.
My neighbors next to me are retired, they have an old dog and are struggling with health issues (all 3 of them) neighbor across the street had a falling out with his son, daughter is graduating high school this year. Other neighbor got a new job and a raise, has been working really hard on his yard and put in a nice gazebo and grill. The guys next to him are working on their drag racing VW Bug. The people on his other side are from Pakistan and are starting a food truck business.
Can you explain how/why people in urban or rural areas would behave any different?
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 5 days ago
Your first comment is exhibiting the isolationist mindset of suburnites while simultaneously marking mutual aid as anathema to your world view. Seems completely captured by capitalism to me.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 5 days ago
Nah, they were just stating the reality. I know you’d like to keep your fantasy about an anarchist utopia intact, but in case you haven’t interacted with many people lately, I’ll just gently remind you that most people are not that altruistic.
They didn’t say anything about their personal worldview. Maybe they think that anarchist utopia of yours would be the dream. But they know that it is a dream and nothing more. Acknowledging the prevailing mindset in society and the limitations that mindset places on collectivist social reform is not an expression of personal conviction.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I don’t think you can narrow that general mindset down to suburbanites. People in all kinds of population densities form in-groups and outgroups, it doesn’t matter if they are in suburbia, a big city, or out in the country. I lived in Baltimore for a year, and that was probably the most socially isolated I’ve ever been. The east coast of the US is just a bucket of crabs, everyone trying to climb over everyone else. The people there wouldn’t even spit at you for free. My partner grew up in a very rural environment, like “outside city limits, and that city only had one traffic light of the blinking yellow variety” rural. The help they got growing up was from family. They would do odd jobs for neighbors and neighbors would do likewise, but there was always some expectation of barter or compensation for materials and services. They definitely had a concept of private property, and knew their tools, time, and expertise were valuable assets necessary to continue their desired lifestyle.
Please, contrast my experiences with yours. I’d love to hear a first-hand account from someone living in a current anarchist society.