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Comment on Colorado’s Trump ban: An anti-democratic move in the name of democracy

ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

One thing im curious about. If Arnold Schwarzenegger said he was going to run for president, but states ruled he was ineligible because of the rules in the constitution, would that also be depriving voters of the right to choose? What if a 20 year old wanted to run?

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Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The constitution says you have to be born in the United States to be president, but the constitution does not specifically preclude those who are born again in Christ while present in the United States from holding the office. As for the 20 year old, I’m sure that if they identify as a 35 year old it would be wrong to not accept them on their own terms.

Still, I agree with the assertion that it’s not up to states.

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- tsonfeir@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Seeing as the constitution doesn’t mention Christianity, you can be reborn in my ass and still can’t run for office. Also, if being reborn to a religion offers citizenship, let’s just start a line at the door, lay a Bible on the table, and have the entire world walk in.
  
  Article II, Section 1 (Presidential Eligibility):
  
  “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
  
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  - Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Ok, so the meaning of “natural born citizen” and “age of 35 years” are very clear. My answer was somewhat facetious, but the issue is this: insurrection is not explicitly defined by federal law. So if one defines insurrection in a very narrow and specific way it could be said that president Trump didn’t engage in it. I think trying to submit fraudulent certificates of ascertainment and telling Pence to accept them does count as both insurrection and sedition, but I can also see why someone would disagree with that. I don’t believe any reasonable person can argue in good faith that such a plan wasn’t a subversion of the established electoral process and a violation of the electoral count act.
    
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    wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It is defined by law and Trump didn’t commit the elements of the crime.
    
    thefederalcriminalattorneys.com/rebellion-or-insu….
    
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