Show me the counterfactual proving those people would have survived under a non-capitalist system.
Are you going to apply the same standard to your original claim? How many of the alleged million would have survived under a non-communist system?
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Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 9 hours agoThe 420 million figure isn’t a measured death toll caused by capitalism. About 90% comes from deaths associated with hunger and inadequate healthcare, and the site makes the additional causal assumption that those deaths are attributable to capitalism. Show me the counterfactual proving those people would have survived under a non-capitalist system. Especially when considering the billions of dollars capitalist countries give in aid internationally. Also, global child mortality has fallen massively during the same period the site is counting these deaths as capitalism’s toll. The under-five mortality rate fell about 60% from 1990 to 2024, while the site attributes millions of ongoing deaths to capitalism.
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Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
That’s exactly what I mean
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 hours ago
About 90% comes from deaths associated with hunger and inadequate healthcare, and the site makes the additional causal assumption that those deaths are attributable to capitalism
Yeah? You want to try applying this standard to your own numbers first.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
What numbers
DmMacniel@feddit.org 9 hours ago
About 90% comes from deaths associated with hunger and inadequate healthcare, and the site makes the additional causal assumption that those deaths are attributable to capitalism
Ah the good ol tactic of “these people didn’t die due to covid, but they died while having covid.”
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
No, not even remotely close to the same thing.
Batman@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Also needs to be normalized by the number of people in each system.
joecitizen@piefed.ca 8 hours ago
Uh decreases in child mortality is a result from non-profit, state-driven public health initiatives and mass vaccination campaigns, publicly funded sanitation, and universal health protocols rather than market driven incentives. Credit belongs to public infrastructure, not private market distribution. You can thank socialism for this.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
That’s a hell of a stretch comrade
joecitizen@piefed.ca 8 hours ago
Well The World Health Organization attributes reductions in child mortality primarily to public health interventions, such as expanded immunization programs, water treatment, and maternal health services, rather than market-driven healthcare.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Yes exactly, that’s what I’m saying.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 8 hours ago
low effort ragebait
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
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