cmbabul@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Every single member of the aristocracy and political leaders of both the Confederacy and apartheid South Africa should have been very publicly executed. And said executions celebrated with drinking holidays. We’d be in a much better spot globally
These movements did a lot of work to blur the line between national identity and the fascist racist agenda of the day. I think it’s as important to clarify to everyone that South African doesn’t mean apartheid supporter and German doesn’t mean Nazi.
I have a friend whose dad is a German WW2 survivor. Whenever my childhood friend talks about Nazis he calls them Germany… Which is so upsetting because today’s Germans might have some things to say about that association!
I did specifically say the leaders and aristocracy of apartheid South Africa, which I would hope to your point implies something different than a citizen of South Africa.
But if the sympathize with Rhodesia they should catch the noose
As a South African, there could’ve been at least some punishment for some people. Basically everyone was forgiven, and presented with the opportunity to learn lessons by themselves and evolve. And 32 years later, Afrikaner farmers are trying to convince Trump that there’s a white genocide and that they’re all precious little victims.
I know that conservatives have a hard time learning anything and doing any evolving (if they could they wouldn’t be conservative) but maybe it would’ve helped if at least some examples were made. Because ‘love and light’ and ‘forgive and forget’ didn’t work.
Oh yeah I’m 100% for consequences and proportionate punishment for people who hurt others, especially those who commit genocide.
Part of the conservative counter culture is to not only minimalise and invalidate accounts of wrong doing, but to confuse the situation so much that consequences can never reach the offenders. That’s why I think it’s important to specifically de-couple nationality from accusations of wrong doing.
It’ll be the same in a few years when the equivalent of Nuremberg happens for American fascists. We should not assume everyone in the United States was a MAGA, but there must be consequences for that group and they must fit the [international] crime.
What that they couldn’t be nazis because they support Israel whatever it does?
Maeve@kbin.earth 3 weeks ago
And Nazi Germany.
kesslerpartyatmyplace@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks ago
And the Zionists.
tangentism@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
Always room in the calender for public holidays!
cmbabul@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Truth, we did at least have the Nuremberg trials for them but more should’ve hanged
tangentism@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
Unfortunately, operation paperclip & condor ensured that the worst were assisted to escape either to become scientists for the US or to South America to form death squads