I think its better to just bypass all of that unless you actually know where they are from and just say, dark skinned fellow. Light skinned woman. There is nothing wrong with using a descriptor.
meco03211@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
I’d use
Black instead of African American
Native instead of Indian
Indian for someone from the country of India
[Nothing] for someone with a mental disability unless it was required in the context of the conversation. And then I’d hopefully know what the specific condition is (ie downs syndrome or fetal alcohol syndrome)
Not an exhaustive list. But a start.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
Hegar@fedia.io 22 hours ago
Given the history of racism and colorism in the US, reducing a person of color to just their skin color can sometimes cause upset. Using a non-skin-tone related descriptor is generally safer.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
Sure I get that. I’m thinking just in a situation where I am describing a stranger. Like “hey front desk person, a dark skinned man with a blue hat dropped his keys but I didnt see what room he went in. I have to leave so I’m leaving them with you”
Bismyth@piefed.social 20 hours ago
I’m probably being overly semantic but perhaps saying “A person with a blue hat and dark skin” would be the least abrasive way of putting it? That said, obsessing over endless semantic refinement and searching for a flawless alternative that does not exist for fear of hypothetical offense will lead to recursive over-correction ad nauseam
daychilde@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
dark skinned MAN, you MISANDRIST!
(I kid, I kid)
Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz 22 hours ago
I met a guy with Indian parents, but he was born and lived in the USA. I asked if that meant he was an American Indian. Nobody would answer me.
Infrapink@thebrainbin.org 20 hours ago
He's an Indian American. An American Indian would be an Indian of American descent.
daychilde@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
I’ve heard a way to disambiguate “Indian” is to ask “dot or feather?” which is, alas, at least mildly racist. But I remember reading about it a few years ago because someone of - wait for it¹ - native and Indian heritage who worked at a casino on a reservation as tech support - was asked this question and got to answer “BOTH!” (and we were all amused at their job and its location) lol
It sounds made up, and who knows, but at the time I remember the discussion seemed to support that they weren’t lying. :shrug:
¹ but I won’t make you wait long. In fact, if you had skipped this footnote, you’d already know!
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 45 minutes ago
in swedish it’s “indian” for native north american, and “indier” for someone from india.
I feel like one could come up with a similar distinction in english but the best i can come up with is “indie” which is unfortunately already taken.
moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 13 hours ago
Native is fine in North America, but offensive in South America. Better to use Indigenous