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• Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  My wife has diabetes and I can tell that you think you know what you’re talking about, but you’re very wrong.

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  • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    They’re making some shitty assumptions that someone will read and pass off as fact. Some asshole manager somewhere will read that bullshit and tell a diabetic they can wait to eat because it’s no big deal because wanderingwanderer needs to feel like they said their peace about shit they don’t live with.

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• rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  You message is is medically wrong, It misunderstands both diabetes and hypoglycemia, and it gives unsafe advice.

  A diabetic with low blood sugar absolutely does need fast‑acting sugar.
  That’s not optional, not “only if they messed up,” and not something complex carbs can fix quickly enough.

  Hypoglycemia is an acute medical emergency, especially for insulin‑dependent diabetics.

  Complex carbs (starches) take 20–60 minutes to digest.

  A hypoglycemic diabetic can lose consciousness in under 5 minutes.

  Simple sugars are only necessary if they messed up by not eating enough and already have dangerously low levels.

  This is false.

  Hypoglycemia is extremely common in diabetics, especially those using insulin or sulfonylureas. It is not a separate condition. It is a direct consequence of diabetes treatment.

  Insulin overdose

  Delayed meals

  Exercise

  Alcohol

  Illness

  Normal day‑to‑day variation in insulin sensitivity

  All can cause hypoglycemia in diabetics.

  So saying “that’s hypoglycemia, not diabetes” shows a misunderstanding of how diabetes works.

  You should consider educating yourself about diabetic hypoglycemia or insulin_overdose. before you start handing out medical advice.

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  • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I wasn’t handing out medical advice. Notice nothing I said was directed towards hypoglycemics? If someone has the medical condition then chances are they talk about it with their doctors already and know what they need to

    The one thing I stand corrected on is that diabetics can have hypoglycemia as a complication of their medication. That makes sense. I wasn’t thinking about that because I assumed it’s usually a more carefully administered dose. But it’s reasonable that sometimes shit happens. But diabetes is still hyperglycemia, and as you stated, diabetic hypoglycemia is a response to medication.

    That being said, you’re acting like you’re contradicting me by saying fast-acting sugars are necessary in an emergency. But the thing is, I clearly stated that emergencies are the moments when simple sugars are needed rather than complex carbs.

    People who suffer from standalone hypoglycemia can prevent acute crises by eating enough complex carbs throughout the day. As long as they do that, they don’t require simple fast-acting sugars. Those are only needed when blood sugar drops dangerously low, as I already stated.

    I don’t know enough about diabetes to say whether insulin-induced hypoglycemia functions the same way. I imagine it could drop off more precipitously. I don’t know how easy or difficult it is to administer the right dose of insulin at the right time, or to manage blood sugar levels by consuming complex carbs through the day rather than relying on simple sugars during emergencies. I don’t have a horse in that race.

    The point is though, simple sugars are only necessary during emergencies. And for standalone hypoglycemia at least, consuming complex carbs throughout the day is much healthier and safer than waiting till there’s an emergency and then hitting the soda like it’s an epi-pen.

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    • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I wasn’t thinking about that because I assumed

      Don’t go on rants about medical shit you know nothing about before you spread disinformation and get someone hurt.

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      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I wasn’t going on a rant, I was responding to your comment which was just as long. If typing in multiple paragraphs is a rant, you were ranting too.

        And what I said wasn’t disinformation. Non-diabetic hypoglycemics exist, and you pretending that they don’t is harmful. Do you really want to tell a person with anorexia that they don’t need to consume complex carbs throughout the day because they can just take fast-acting sugars when they get dangerously low blood sugar?

        We can keep talking past each other all we want, but it seems we’re talking about two different things. I already said I stand corrected about diabetics not having hypoglycemia. But I was correct in that it’s a complication from their medication, an overcorrection, and not the diabetes itself.

        There’s a very clear medical distinction between symptoms of an illness and side effects of a medication. But if all you’re interested in is self-righteous accusations then I’m not going to be party to this conversation any longer. You can rant to yourself in the corner if you’d like.

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