Still garbage, to compare view them unfavorably then you have to do view them favorably not “support” if you want to compare support then yoi have to do “Against” with clear questions.
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null@piefed.nullspace.lol 2 months ago
No. Support is ~30%. Last time I checked, that’s not a majority.
~47% (almost half) view them unfavorably. Another ~23% are unsure.
VeryInterestingTable@jlai.lu 2 months ago
null@piefed.nullspace.lol 2 months ago
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
For context Trump’s numbers are (according to the Economist, but most polls are similar):
34% approve 61% disapprove 4% unsure
So the DSA’s approval is less than Trump’s, but there’s a much larger percentage in the “Don’t know” column. Which makes sense, Trump is an incumbent, everyone knows him, while a lot of people don’t know what the DSA is about. But then I’m not sure the DSA knows what the DSA is about.
So Trump’s net approval is -27 while the DSA’s is -17. So the DSA is currently at 10% better than a criminal pedophile.
Obviously that 23% “Don’t know” number is significant. If every single person that doesn’t know about the DSA learns more about them and decides they like them, then I guess the DSA could get to a net approval of +6. But if people learn more about them they fall into similar categories as those that already have an opinion, then their net approval approval would drop to similar levels to Trump.
If they could clean things up a bit in regards to the antisemitism and things like “America deserved 9/11” kind of rhetoric they could improve their numbers. But I don’t think the DSA is interested in doing that. So they’re probably going to be stuck at around a net -20.
There’s good reason why people like Abdul El-Sayed and AOC are distancing themselves from the DSA.
AmyAye@nord.pub 2 months ago
Clean up antisemitism
Reminder, disliking Israel murdering all the Palestinians is not anti-semetic, that’s propaganda working.
theolodis@feddit.org 2 months ago
you’re assuming that the 47% unfavorable are there because they know what the DSA are about? My theory is that they are unfavorable because of hundred years of propaganada against anything opposing capitalism, partially caused by the media being owned by the wealthy, as well as hundreds of millions or more from Israel to discredit the ones that oppose their genocides.
null@piefed.nullspace.lol 2 months ago
Absolutely. And there’s no way all of that 47% knows that the DSA is an actual communist group.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 months ago
That table isn’t on the link provided
null@piefed.nullspace.lol 2 months ago
Thanks, corrected the link.
jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 months ago
yeah it’s more of a splash if anything hyper magnified by media focus on a about 3 charismatic individuals that are not following DSA policies
they’re a bunch of independents waving a commie and palestinian flag
Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
You could be correct, but that’s not what the headline says. People who lack support also “don’t support”. “Less than half don’t support” is the same thing as “more than half do support.” !support < 50% can be converted to support >= 50%.
null@piefed.nullspace.lol 2 months ago
Why would you count “unsure” as “support”?
Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
I don’t. Unsure is lacking in support. They don’t support him. They are included in the “less than half don’t support” of the headline.
Blibly@lemmy.world 2 months ago
23-30% of people are perpetually unsure of everything lol
lemmelemmy@feddit.org 2 months ago
Those are people who don’t wanna answer. Tbh if some rando was asking which political view I had, I would also not share it.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If I was approached in the NYC street by someone asking me how I felt about politics, I would not take the risk that they have my name and face already and want to put me in a oligarch’s database.
lemmelemmy@feddit.org 2 months ago
Exactly
AmyAye@nord.pub 2 months ago
Especially when you get asked in a way that makes it clear that they have an agenda.
Like to ask say, “Do you support what the Mayor is doing with raising taxes on rich residents” they might ask “Would you be ok with having your taxes raised?”
Then report it in a reframed way later.
Polls are bull shit no matter what they say.
daychilde@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Maybe. I don’t know about that.
;-)
YouTalkinToMe@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I don’t know about that
Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Or they’re in the “nothing ever happens” camp.
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 2 months ago
About 35% of the unfavorable are the lost ones that vote R because that’s what they’ve always done, what their church tells them, and what their one or two propaganda channels tell them. And the other 10% of those are probably Wall Street and adjacent. The ones that actually do have things to lose, since they’re the ones stealing it from the rest.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 months ago
undecided voters as well.
jj4211@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s a fair position, as far as they are concerned, they haven’t seen it in action, at least not for very long. So they are waiting to see if it pans out as promised.